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An interesting analysis, but do you have links to the primary sources or to a more credible source than the Daily Caller? > As a personal anecdote, my car was

An interesting analysis, but do you have links to the primary sources or to a more credible source than the Daily Caller? > As a personal anecdote, my car was broken into last year and I did not bother filing a police report. What does that represent? Not only are you just one person, people have been behaving like that for generations, not just the last 4 years.

notadev 2y ago
What would you hope to gain from a “more reliable” source when the DailyCaller article links to the sources of its claims? Do you not even bother to read something if it’s from a source you don’t frequently read?
- matthewdgreen 2y ago
  If you carefully pick the start and end dates, you can report a 42% increase in a (noisy but) essentially flat line. See the other comment by ajross below, or go look at the chart yourself. The problem here is the interpretation of the data.
  - rufus_foreman 2y ago
    They carefully picked the most recent data available, and interpreted it correctly. The media is reporting that the public perception is that crime is going up when it is going down, but if the victimization survey is correct, the public perception is that crime is going up when it is going up. That doesn't mean the public perception hasn't been wrong in the past - it has - but it wasn't wrong during the period of the most recent available data, again, if the victimization survey rather than the FBI data is correct.
- wolverine876 2y ago
  > Do you not even bother to read something if it’s from a source you don’t frequently read? I don't read disinformation sources. It's a waste of time, hoping that this time, it might be different. If someone who has misinformed me 10,000 times sends me an email with information, I don't take the time to look into it.
- lancesells 2y ago
  I've never heard of this site but the about us starts with: > Founded in 2010 by Tucker Carlson The homepage has a headline of "Owning the libs" and the paid members section seem to be called "Patriots". Clearly there's some different agenda besides reporting the news. This is a low budget version of something like Breitbart and I won't bother reading the article.
walkabilitee 2y ago
Between 2021 and 2022 the rate of violent victimization reporting to police dropped from 46% to 42%. Data is not yet available for 2023: https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2022 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimizat... https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2021 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimizat... The pre-pandemic, pre-George Floyd norm was around 46-47%: https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2015 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimizat... >No statistically significant change was detected in the percentages of violent crime reported to police from 2014 (46%) to 2015 (47%)
supergeek133 2y ago
How does one have an official source of "A crime was done to me but I just decided to not call the police"
- bigdaddyrabbit2 2y ago
  You call them. That's what the NCVS does.
simplyluke 2y ago
At least in Seattle it's become notably more common in the past handful of years for people to not bother reporting many crimes, knowing that the police will not even show up for most of them. This was not true 5-10 years ago.
- wolverine876 2y ago
  How do you know?
- NoMoreNicksLeft 2y ago
  It was true 30 years ago, it took most people at least 20 years to take a hint.

notadev 2y ago

What would you hope to gain from a “more reliable” source when the DailyCaller article links to the sources of its claims? Do you not even bother to read something if it’s from a source you don’t frequently read?

matthewdgreen 2y ago
If you carefully pick the start and end dates, you can report a 42% increase in a (noisy but) essentially flat line. See the other comment by ajross below, or go look at the chart yourself. The problem here is the interpretation of the data.
- rufus_foreman 2y ago
  They carefully picked the most recent data available, and interpreted it correctly. The media is reporting that the public perception is that crime is going up when it is going down, but if the victimization survey is correct, the public perception is that crime is going up when it is going up. That doesn't mean the public perception hasn't been wrong in the past - it has - but it wasn't wrong during the period of the most recent available data, again, if the victimization survey rather than the FBI data is correct.
wolverine876 2y ago
> Do you not even bother to read something if it’s from a source you don’t frequently read? I don't read disinformation sources. It's a waste of time, hoping that this time, it might be different. If someone who has misinformed me 10,000 times sends me an email with information, I don't take the time to look into it.
lancesells 2y ago
I've never heard of this site but the about us starts with: > Founded in 2010 by Tucker Carlson The homepage has a headline of "Owning the libs" and the paid members section seem to be called "Patriots". Clearly there's some different agenda besides reporting the news. This is a low budget version of something like Breitbart and I won't bother reading the article.

walkabilitee 2y ago

Between 2021 and 2022 the rate of violent victimization reporting to police dropped from 46% to 42%. Data is not yet available for 2023: https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2022 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimizat... https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2021 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimizat... The pre-pandemic, pre-George Floyd norm was around 46-47%: https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2015 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimizat... >No statistically significant change was detected in the percentages of violent crime reported to police from 2014 (46%) to 2015 (47%)

supergeek133 2y ago

How does one have an official source of "A crime was done to me but I just decided to not call the police"

bigdaddyrabbit2 2y ago
You call them. That's what the NCVS does.

simplyluke 2y ago

At least in Seattle it's become notably more common in the past handful of years for people to not bother reporting many crimes, knowing that the police will not even show up for most of them. This was not true 5-10 years ago.

wolverine876 2y ago
How do you know?
NoMoreNicksLeft 2y ago
It was true 30 years ago, it took most people at least 20 years to take a hint.