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> What parent is going to sit there and watch the chaos and violence on those campuses and think "thats where I should send my kids" Because there's no better

> What parent is going to sit there and watch the chaos and violence on those campuses and think "thats where I should send my kids" Because there's no better signal to potential employers for recent college graduates? The media ignores them, but there's tons of protests at state schools as well. Guess you could send your kids to some religious university I suppose.

wonderwonder 2y ago
There were attempted protests at UF. They were shut down, protestors arrested and suspended from campus for 3 years. There were also protests in TX state schools, same result essentially. Some schools don't allow other students to take over the campus and prevent other paying students from access or attending class. They also don't permit violence. Obviously each of those schools has their own political agenda controlled by their govenors but kids can go to class.
- asdgksdniko 2y ago
  >Some schools don't allow other students to take over the campus and prevent other paying students from access or attending class. People hanging out on lawns don't prevent anyone from attending class. The encampments have been, to the best of my knowledge, entirely peaceful. Certainly the one at Columbia has been. You can disagree with the protestors. You can think they're trespassing or that they're being too disruptive. But you don't get to lie on my watch.
  - wonderwonder 2y ago
    hmm, what about when the school cancels in person classes because the campus is not safe? Is that not preventing anyone from attending class? https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/us-news/columbia-cancels-in-person-classes-amid-anti-israel-protests/ https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/us-news/columbia-cancels-in-pe... what about when protestors seize and vandalize an academic building? Is that not preventing anyone from attending classes? https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/columbia-university-israel-hamas-protesters-seize-building-hang-palestinian-flag-from-window.html https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/columbia-university-israel-h... What about the Jewish girl that was sent to the hospital at UCLA? https://twitter.com/kleavittnh/status/1785495804393701780 https://twitter.com/kleavittnh/status/1785495804393701780 probably hard for her to attend classes that day? Hows your watch going?
- wolverine876 2y ago
  Even if true, those are hardly federal crimes. And of course they aren't really true. Where did those things happen, specifically? At Columbia, the university administration shut down campus; it was functioning fine otherwise (except for one building on the last day).
  - wonderwonder 2y ago
    so the school was going fine and the school just shut it down for no reason? "except for one building on the last day", lol except for the one building that was vandalized likely for millions of dollars in damages. That was an escalation, how much more would it escalate if the police had not stepped in? A crime is a crime, it does not matter if its state / federal or misdemeanor. Do we just allow crime if some of us decide that its for a good reason? Who gets to decide if the reason is just? That's a pretty slippery slope you are looking to walk up.
gnicholas 2y ago
The media hasn't been ignoring the protests, blockades, and scuffles at UCLA, or some Cal Poly school in the redwoods I'd never heard of before (I knew SLO and Pomona, but apparently there's at least one other).
- aoki 2y ago
  They rebranded (and reinvested in) Humboldt State a couple of years ago in the hopes of reversing declining enrollment.

wonderwonder 2y ago

There were attempted protests at UF. They were shut down, protestors arrested and suspended from campus for 3 years. There were also protests in TX state schools, same result essentially. Some schools don't allow other students to take over the campus and prevent other paying students from access or attending class. They also don't permit violence. Obviously each of those schools has their own political agenda controlled by their govenors but kids can go to class.

asdgksdniko 2y ago
>Some schools don't allow other students to take over the campus and prevent other paying students from access or attending class. People hanging out on lawns don't prevent anyone from attending class. The encampments have been, to the best of my knowledge, entirely peaceful. Certainly the one at Columbia has been. You can disagree with the protestors. You can think they're trespassing or that they're being too disruptive. But you don't get to lie on my watch.
- wonderwonder 2y ago
  hmm, what about when the school cancels in person classes because the campus is not safe? Is that not preventing anyone from attending class? https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/us-news/columbia-cancels-in-person-classes-amid-anti-israel-protests/ https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/us-news/columbia-cancels-in-pe... what about when protestors seize and vandalize an academic building? Is that not preventing anyone from attending classes? https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/columbia-university-israel-hamas-protesters-seize-building-hang-palestinian-flag-from-window.html https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/columbia-university-israel-h... What about the Jewish girl that was sent to the hospital at UCLA? https://twitter.com/kleavittnh/status/1785495804393701780 https://twitter.com/kleavittnh/status/1785495804393701780 probably hard for her to attend classes that day? Hows your watch going?
wolverine876 2y ago
Even if true, those are hardly federal crimes. And of course they aren't really true. Where did those things happen, specifically? At Columbia, the university administration shut down campus; it was functioning fine otherwise (except for one building on the last day).
- wonderwonder 2y ago
  so the school was going fine and the school just shut it down for no reason? "except for one building on the last day", lol except for the one building that was vandalized likely for millions of dollars in damages. That was an escalation, how much more would it escalate if the police had not stepped in? A crime is a crime, it does not matter if its state / federal or misdemeanor. Do we just allow crime if some of us decide that its for a good reason? Who gets to decide if the reason is just? That's a pretty slippery slope you are looking to walk up.

gnicholas 2y ago

The media hasn't been ignoring the protests, blockades, and scuffles at UCLA, or some Cal Poly school in the redwoods I'd never heard of before (I knew SLO and Pomona, but apparently there's at least one other).

aoki 2y ago
They rebranded (and reinvested in) Humboldt State a couple of years ago in the hopes of reversing declining enrollment.