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> "American" manufacturers obviously have no problem sourcing parts (and labor) from China. Why should "American" consumers? Because at least presumably, the A

> "American" manufacturers obviously have no problem sourcing parts (and labor) from China. Why should "American" consumers? Because at least presumably, the American companies sourcing parts and labor are overseeing the final product. A lot of products are made in China, sold at Target or Best Buy, and quite good. Whereas if you buy some "random China" toodad off of Alibaba or Wish, who knows what you're getting. To put a finer point on it, would you trust Random Chinese Business to definitely install airbags correctly without Ford or Toyota looking over their shoulder? I doubt you would. It's not a hating on China thing so much as it's an acknowledgement of the fact that domestic Chinese brands generally tend to make absolute garbage.

jqpabc123 2y ago
Because at least presumably, the American companies sourcing parts and labor are overseeing the final product. The reason that half the cars now sold in America are "foreign" brands is because American companies proved less than adequate at "overseeing the final product".
coldtea 2y ago
>To put a finer point on it, would you trust Random Chinese Business to definitely install airbags correctly without Ford or Toyota looking over their shoulder? I doubt you would. I totally would. Perhaps even better. Like I trust DJI for drones and gimbals and other brands that got better than their US counterparts. It's about brand trust, and a Chinese brand can totally get that, it's not about some unsurmountable China vs US gap. Not to mention the same argument you made was made in the 70s for Toyota too - "can't trust those Japanese cars, they're inferior". We know what happened next. Besides, Ford as some paragon of quality control, seriously? The only domestic Chinese brands "making absolute garbage" are those making cheapo garbage for "dollar store" like consumption. It's the price group that determines the garbage, not lack of Chinese oversight. Not to mention a lot of US branded stuff (e.g. in computer peripherals) is just rebranded Chinese OEM stuff - selling for 5x to 10x the original price with the same internals.

jqpabc123 2y ago

Because at least presumably, the American companies sourcing parts and labor are overseeing the final product. The reason that half the cars now sold in America are "foreign" brands is because American companies proved less than adequate at "overseeing the final product".

coldtea 2y ago

>To put a finer point on it, would you trust Random Chinese Business to definitely install airbags correctly without Ford or Toyota looking over their shoulder? I doubt you would. I totally would. Perhaps even better. Like I trust DJI for drones and gimbals and other brands that got better than their US counterparts. It's about brand trust, and a Chinese brand can totally get that, it's not about some unsurmountable China vs US gap. Not to mention the same argument you made was made in the 70s for Toyota too - "can't trust those Japanese cars, they're inferior". We know what happened next. Besides, Ford as some paragon of quality control, seriously? The only domestic Chinese brands "making absolute garbage" are those making cheapo garbage for "dollar store" like consumption. It's the price group that determines the garbage, not lack of Chinese oversight. Not to mention a lot of US branded stuff (e.g. in computer peripherals) is just rebranded Chinese OEM stuff - selling for 5x to 10x the original price with the same internals.