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Possibly an instance of the California effect? National manufacturers have to design toilets for western states where conservation is a huge issue - might just
by DoughnutHole 2y ago
Possibly an instance of the California effect?
National manufacturers have to design toilets for western states where conservation is a huge issue - might just be cheaper to sell those toilets nationwide than to have a different product line for wetter states.
- throwup238 2y agoIt's due to the Energy Policy Act of 1992: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_1992#Impact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Policy_Act_of_1992#Impa... It set a max volume for toilet flushes of 1.6 gallons and since it's a federal law, it covers everyone.
- mjevans 2y agoInvariably, I end up using _at least_ 3.2 gallons as it takes multiple flushes to finish the job.
- brewdad 2y agoIf that is your normal everyday experience you should consider changing your diet and or your toilet. Neither my wife nor I clog a toilet more than about once a year. The double flush might happen once every other month.
- gnicholas 2y agoI don't think GP is saying he clogs the toilet, but rather that a single flush does not clear it. We have very low-flow toilets, and sometimes my little kids have to double-flush. It's not about diet or anything — the toilets are just very low-flow (assuming you only have to flush once).
- djhn 2y agoI’d argue that clogging a toilet with any kind of regularity is still a failure of either engineering or diet.
- gottorf 2y agoDefinitely an odd thing to regulate federally. No reason at all why toilets in New Mexico (average annual rainfall 13") and Mississippi (56") should be held to the same legal limit of water usage.
- throwup238 2y agoThe low flow restriction was criticized at the time for exactly that but I believe the reason it ended up in the bill is twofold: manufacturers wanted a unified standard at the national level that didn't change at the whims of 50 different state legislatures and the bill was geared towards energy conservation, not water usage. Since toilets account for 30-40% of indoor water usage and pumping water around is quite energy intensive, it does have an effect even if you're in a wet region.
- gnicholas 2y ago> pumping water around is quite energy intensive How energy-intensive are we talking? Compared to what?