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One reason was mentioned in the article: After all, the Rabbit R1’s launcher app is intended to be preinstalled in the firmware and be granted several privileg

One reason was mentioned in the article: After all, the Rabbit R1’s launcher app is intended to be preinstalled in the firmware and be granted several privileged, system-level permissions — only some of which we were able to grant — so some of the functions would likely fail if we tried And the statement from Rabbit in the article says essentially the same: rabbit OS and LAM run on the cloud with very bespoke AOSP and lower level firmware modifications, therefore a local bootleg APK without the proper OS and Cloud endpoints won’t be able to access our service

wmf 2y ago
Are these privileged system-level permissions in the room with us now? What specifically are they?
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  why are you so incredulous that android might have some annoying privacy restrictions that a custom AOSP can sidestep? I would google rabbit's reasoning for this but I don't care enough
  - tredre3 2y ago
    > why are you so incredulous that android might have some annoying privacy restrictions that a custom AOSP can sidestep? I don't doubt that such restrictions exist. But I'm also curious as to what, specifically, they would be? Apps can access all sensors, cameras, microphone, network. So what's left?
    - tripdout 2y ago
      You can CTRL-F here https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.per... for "signature" and view permissions that are only granted to apps signed with the platform key, i.e. built into the system image as part of the AOSP build process. There's a good number that might be useful for the R1.
  - wmf 2y ago
    Their official reasoning: "rabbit OS and LAM run on the cloud with very bespoke AOSP and lower level firmware modifications". https://twitter.com/rabbit_hmi/status/1785498453097009473 https://twitter.com/rabbit_hmi/status/1785498453097009473 This reads like obfuscation to me. Just tell us in plain english!
  - flexagoon 2y ago
    Because people were able to launch the app on their Android phones.

wmf 2y ago

Are these privileged system-level permissions in the room with us now? What specifically are they?

jazzyjackson 2y ago
why are you so incredulous that android might have some annoying privacy restrictions that a custom AOSP can sidestep? I would google rabbit's reasoning for this but I don't care enough
- tredre3 2y ago
  > why are you so incredulous that android might have some annoying privacy restrictions that a custom AOSP can sidestep? I don't doubt that such restrictions exist. But I'm also curious as to what, specifically, they would be? Apps can access all sensors, cameras, microphone, network. So what's left?
  - tripdout 2y ago
    You can CTRL-F here https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.per... for "signature" and view permissions that are only granted to apps signed with the platform key, i.e. built into the system image as part of the AOSP build process. There's a good number that might be useful for the R1.
- wmf 2y ago
  Their official reasoning: "rabbit OS and LAM run on the cloud with very bespoke AOSP and lower level firmware modifications". https://twitter.com/rabbit_hmi/status/1785498453097009473 https://twitter.com/rabbit_hmi/status/1785498453097009473 This reads like obfuscation to me. Just tell us in plain english!
- flexagoon 2y ago
  Because people were able to launch the app on their Android phones.