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I can understand all of that, empathize with it, and still believe it's a massive stress to claim it's "[literally] slavery" when its more related or connected
by DiggyJohnson 2y ago
I can understand all of that, empathize with it, and still believe it's a massive stress to claim it's "[literally] slavery" when its more related or connected to the history of slavery.
That's what I mean by rhetorical device.
- michaelmrose 2y agoThe amendment that ended slavery was careful to carve out an exemption for enslaving prisoners. We have and private and public prisons who rent prisoners to private businesses wherein the companies pay nothing or a token amount to the prisoners themselves and the lions share of the remunerations to the prisoners owners. We still have slavery as it would have been understood to exist for thousands of years.
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoI understand that amendment. Would you agree that one difference between modern penal mandatory labor (modern slavery as you would say) is that for most prisoners, their bondage ends at the end of their prison sentence? And that they are not legally owned as property like in chattel slavery?
- michaelmrose 2y agoHistorically there have been many definitions. Being sublet without your own permission and worked for your owners benefit would be recognized as slavery the world over for thousands of years. Even the drafters of the 14th agreed.