> Do you really want to argue electronic devices don't improve and cheapen dramatically over time? No, I am arguing that people are not taking into account iss

> Do you really want to argue electronic devices don't improve and cheapen dramatically over time? No, I am arguing that people are not taking into account issues with the existing technologies and their capabilities, and instead thoughtlessly rolling out renewables onto the grid, putting people at real risk. You do understand what 'immediate catastrophic grid failure' means, right? > Nuclear needs a grid too. It's the same grid we already have! It was designed for baseload generation which is exactly what nuclear gives you! No costly grid upgrades required! > when a GW+ of capacity suddenly drops off the grid and you have to be ready for that? That's a chronic problem of nuclear. The 'sudden drop' is exactly what is avoided by nuclear's steady power generation. > Renewable projects typically come in within 10% of projected cost Until you factor in the massive upgrades that will be needed to the grid, the ecological toll of vast solar panel arrays and wind farms, the vast mining requirements for all the minerals needed for these devices, and the end-of-life (20 to 30 years) recycling and disposal costs. Then the picture is not so pretty! > That places like France and Ontario achieved deep decarbonization in the now distant past matters little. Yeah, facts don't matter and only unproven ideologically driven technologies matter. > solar and wind (and storage) have improved so much. Yes, they have improved so much that Texas is at risk of catastrophic grid collapse. Facts have an inconvenient way of intruding on fantasy! > Look at what has happened with costs for new nuclear construction What did happen with costs? UAE has successfully launched their NPP and is planning to build more. Not all costs are money sinks–these NPPs will generate clean power for decades, maybe even a century. They will produce minimal waste that will be safely sequestered and/or reused, and they will have very little ecological footprint. A nuclear power plant is one of the best investments you can make for the future. > self deception will rapidly become impossible to sustain in the near future as renewables and storage continue their rampage to domination of the world energy system Sure, in the future everything will be perfect and all of the problems that people have pointed out will magically go away. And I'm living in fantasy land ;-)