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Since multiple people asked for stats on this, I'm just putting it as a response to the parent instead of responding to any given individual. Here [1] they are.

Since multiple people asked for stats on this, I'm just putting it as a response to the parent instead of responding to any given individual. Here [1] they are. It's from 2018 because it seems like at some point the FBI chose to replace nice simple tables with some really horrible UX 'data explorer' that leaves me absolutely unable to find more recent data on the exact same stat. Anyhow, black Americans made up something like 40% (eyeballing) of total homicide victims, yet are only about 12% of the population. It's extremely disproportionate. [1] - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

bregma 3y ago
Ah, but there is a known strong correlation between poverty and crime, and strong correlation between race and poverty. Any conflation of correlation with causation between race and crime is exclusively an attempt to obfuscate a racist political stance.
- somenameforme 3y ago
  Your comment has nothing to do with what's being discussed. The self reported survey claims that black individuals have no higher chance of victimization than other groups. One of the extremely few objective measurements of victimization data we have shows they are dramatically more likely to suffer at least some sorts of violent crime. This suggests that the survey data is likely flawed.
  - cantSpellSober 3y ago
    >> there is a known strong correlation between poverty and crime > Your comment has nothing to do with what's being discussed What? The paper itself notes that it does > younger people and those with lower incomes were far more likely to report being the victim of a violent crime than older and higher-income people
adolph 3y ago
The data explorer is backed by wide open APIs. The numbers are just a curl away: curl 'https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/estimate/state/TX/violent-crime?from=2012&to=2022 https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/estimate/state/TX/violent-cr...' -H 'accept: application/json, text/plain, /' {"results": {"Texas Violent Crime":{"2012":408.6,"2013":410.3,"2014":406.7,"2015":412.7,"2016":433.8,"2017":437.8,"2018":412.9,"2019":421.8,"2020":446.5,"2021":453,"2022":431.9}, "United States Violent Crime":{"2012":387.8,"2013":369.1,"2014":361.6,"2015":373.7,"2016":397.5,"2017":394.9,"2018":383.4,"2019":380.8,"2020":398.5,"2021":387,"2022":380.7}}} Docs are here: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/docApi https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/docApi

bregma 3y ago

Ah, but there is a known strong correlation between poverty and crime, and strong correlation between race and poverty. Any conflation of correlation with causation between race and crime is exclusively an attempt to obfuscate a racist political stance.

somenameforme 3y ago
Your comment has nothing to do with what's being discussed. The self reported survey claims that black individuals have no higher chance of victimization than other groups. One of the extremely few objective measurements of victimization data we have shows they are dramatically more likely to suffer at least some sorts of violent crime. This suggests that the survey data is likely flawed.
- cantSpellSober 3y ago
  >> there is a known strong correlation between poverty and crime > Your comment has nothing to do with what's being discussed What? The paper itself notes that it does > younger people and those with lower incomes were far more likely to report being the victim of a violent crime than older and higher-income people

adolph 3y ago

The data explorer is backed by wide open APIs. The numbers are just a curl away: curl 'https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/estimate/state/TX/violent-crime?from=2012&to=2022 https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/estimate/state/TX/violent-cr...' -H 'accept: application/json, text/plain, /' {"results": {"Texas Violent Crime":{"2012":408.6,"2013":410.3,"2014":406.7,"2015":412.7,"2016":433.8,"2017":437.8,"2018":412.9,"2019":421.8,"2020":446.5,"2021":453,"2022":431.9}, "United States Violent Crime":{"2012":387.8,"2013":369.1,"2014":361.6,"2015":373.7,"2016":397.5,"2017":394.9,"2018":383.4,"2019":380.8,"2020":398.5,"2021":387,"2022":380.7}}} Docs are here: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/docApi https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/docApi