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We need a website that shows models and "safe" years. Or how to modify them to not phone home. Happy to pull fuses or connectors.

by Tempest1981 2y ago

ryandrake 2y ago
Yea, it's gotten to the point where recent cars are such a minefield of misfeatures and unwanted features. Traditional car buying sites like Autotrader need to offer better filters. I should be able to check a box that says "No touchscreen," "No microphone," "No cellular connectivity," "No telemetry," "No account[1] required" and so on. Without this, you need to filter by year, but that's not really precise. 1: Aside: The idea of having to have an online account with the manufacturer in order to use a car is so ridiculous, I can't even believe I'm typing it.
- 7thaccount 2y ago
  At this point I've considered building a mostly finished kit car. These privacy violations should absolutely be illegal. I shouldn't have to deal with GM selling my driving data to my insurance provider. I can't just buy a different car either as they ALL do it now. Also, a car should not be like setting up an iPad. Dedicated buttons are superior and safer, but it won't happen again at this point outside of an act of Congress as the manufacturers found out it's cheaper to make just a single touchscreen.
- chasd00 2y ago
  > The idea of having to have an online account with the manufacturer in order to use a car is so ridiculous, I can't even believe I'm typing it. Where is this the case? I haven't heard of this before, granted i haven't bought a car in about 8 years. My 2016 4runner has the little mayday button and gps aftermarket thing but you have to pay for the service, if you don't pay then my assumption is it's not transmitting anything. I know Tesla does OTA updates so they must be connected 24x7 but I haven't heard of that requirement for any other cars. Is it just an EV thing? I know there are still plenty of places in the US with absolutely no cell phone much less data service, i'm assuming these cars are drivable there with maybe a "no connection" indicator. I wonder if there's a way to disable the ability to get a reliable connection without actually removing power to a component. On the other hand, if you're driving a car with your phone in your pocket then it's a moot point. Your phone is the best citizen tracking device ever invented. edit: i want to be clear and I agree, having to have an online account to operate a car is _absolutely_ ridiculous!

We need a website that shows models and "safe" years. Or how to modify them to not phone home. Happy to pull fuses or connectors.

ryandrake 2y ago

Yea, it's gotten to the point where recent cars are such a minefield of misfeatures and unwanted features. Traditional car buying sites like Autotrader need to offer better filters. I should be able to check a box that says "No touchscreen," "No microphone," "No cellular connectivity," "No telemetry," "No account[1] required" and so on. Without this, you need to filter by year, but that's not really precise. 1: Aside: The idea of having to have an online account with the manufacturer in order to use a car is so ridiculous, I can't even believe I'm typing it.

7thaccount 2y ago
At this point I've considered building a mostly finished kit car. These privacy violations should absolutely be illegal. I shouldn't have to deal with GM selling my driving data to my insurance provider. I can't just buy a different car either as they ALL do it now. Also, a car should not be like setting up an iPad. Dedicated buttons are superior and safer, but it won't happen again at this point outside of an act of Congress as the manufacturers found out it's cheaper to make just a single touchscreen.
chasd00 2y ago
> The idea of having to have an online account with the manufacturer in order to use a car is so ridiculous, I can't even believe I'm typing it. Where is this the case? I haven't heard of this before, granted i haven't bought a car in about 8 years. My 2016 4runner has the little mayday button and gps aftermarket thing but you have to pay for the service, if you don't pay then my assumption is it's not transmitting anything. I know Tesla does OTA updates so they must be connected 24x7 but I haven't heard of that requirement for any other cars. Is it just an EV thing? I know there are still plenty of places in the US with absolutely no cell phone much less data service, i'm assuming these cars are drivable there with maybe a "no connection" indicator. I wonder if there's a way to disable the ability to get a reliable connection without actually removing power to a component. On the other hand, if you're driving a car with your phone in your pocket then it's a moot point. Your phone is the best citizen tracking device ever invented. edit: i want to be clear and I agree, having to have an online account to operate a car is _absolutely_ ridiculous!