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To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

nicklecompte 2y ago
I would never purchase this myself, but it seems most people are buying it as a toy or trinket, not as a productivity device. I can't judge them too much considering how much actual grownup money I've spent on Legos...
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  In 20 years your Legos will still function just fine, can be re-used, can be passed down to new kids or new owners, can be integrated in other things etc... In 5 years this thing will be poisoning some small trash picking child in Africa somewhere.
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shmatt 2y ago
I can't think of a single hyped up pre-order that worked out. Either * Everyone else can buy it when the pre orders are delivered * Due to monetary constraints, regular orders are actually shipped before pre-orders * The device is nothing like it was promised * The device doesn't exist The intentions are good (funding without VCs) but I rather the VCs lose money than consumers
rideontime 2y ago
s/video/vibe?
- aeurielesn 2y ago
  You're correct. I didn't even notice the typo until now!
mritchie712 2y ago
It's not a very good cash hustle if people actually use it. From what I can tell, it's a one time $200 payment and you can use the LLM indefinitely. If the device costs $100 to produce and ship that's only $100 left to cover compute... forever. It seems they want the compute to run on device, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now[0]. I don't know the specs of the device, but pretty sure it'd have to cost more than $200 to run an LLM locally. edit: 128 gigs of storage and four gigs of RAM. For llama3-8b (the smallest llama3 model) you need at least 8GB of RAM. 0 - https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/18/24043490/rabbit-r1-ai-perplexity-pro-live-search-info-answers https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/18/24043490/rabbit-r1-ai-per...
- woleium 2y ago
  i believe its a 12 month license to use the llm, but still, that’s nearly 200 by itself, so it seems like a sensible option to get both.
- paxys 2y ago
  It is most definitely selling at a loss and trying to generate enough hype to get acquired.
  - extesy 2y ago
    I highly doubt Teenage Engineering is looking to be acquired.
    - jsheard 2y ago
      Teenage Engineering aren't the ones who would be acquired, they just did the industrial design work on contract for Rabbit. The same way TE designed the Playdate but it's not a TE product.
      - omnimus 2y ago
        Its amazing TE has such a brand that people think these are their products.
karmajunkie 2y ago
i apparently ordered one impulsively while i was… in an altered state, let’s say. (in my defense, iirc i wanted to evaluate it as a device for a family member with a neurodegenerative disease to use for some daily online activities…) based on that appeal, i’d say you’re probably correct in that assessment.
Klonoar 2y ago
Considering their prior bit was NFTs, I wouldn’t feel too surprised by that feeling.

nicklecompte 2y ago

I would never purchase this myself, but it seems most people are buying it as a toy or trinket, not as a productivity device. I can't judge them too much considering how much actual grownup money I've spent on Legos...

mrguyorama 2y ago
In 20 years your Legos will still function just fine, can be re-used, can be passed down to new kids or new owners, can be integrated in other things etc... In 5 years this thing will be poisoning some small trash picking child in Africa somewhere.
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shmatt 2y ago

I can't think of a single hyped up pre-order that worked out. Either * Everyone else can buy it when the pre orders are delivered * Due to monetary constraints, regular orders are actually shipped before pre-orders * The device is nothing like it was promised * The device doesn't exist The intentions are good (funding without VCs) but I rather the VCs lose money than consumers

rideontime 2y ago

s/video/vibe?

aeurielesn 2y ago
You're correct. I didn't even notice the typo until now!

mritchie712 2y ago

It's not a very good cash hustle if people actually use it. From what I can tell, it's a one time $200 payment and you can use the LLM indefinitely. If the device costs $100 to produce and ship that's only $100 left to cover compute... forever. It seems they want the compute to run on device, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now[0]. I don't know the specs of the device, but pretty sure it'd have to cost more than $200 to run an LLM locally. edit: 128 gigs of storage and four gigs of RAM. For llama3-8b (the smallest llama3 model) you need at least 8GB of RAM. 0 - https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/18/24043490/rabbit-r1-ai-perplexity-pro-live-search-info-answers https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/18/24043490/rabbit-r1-ai-per...

woleium 2y ago
i believe its a 12 month license to use the llm, but still, that’s nearly 200 by itself, so it seems like a sensible option to get both.
paxys 2y ago
It is most definitely selling at a loss and trying to generate enough hype to get acquired.
- extesy 2y ago
  I highly doubt Teenage Engineering is looking to be acquired.
  - jsheard 2y ago
    Teenage Engineering aren't the ones who would be acquired, they just did the industrial design work on contract for Rabbit. The same way TE designed the Playdate but it's not a TE product.
    - omnimus 2y ago
      Its amazing TE has such a brand that people think these are their products.

karmajunkie 2y ago

i apparently ordered one impulsively while i was… in an altered state, let’s say. (in my defense, iirc i wanted to evaluate it as a device for a family member with a neurodegenerative disease to use for some daily online activities…) based on that appeal, i’d say you’re probably correct in that assessment.

Klonoar 2y ago

Considering their prior bit was NFTs, I wouldn’t feel too surprised by that feeling.