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This is an ever expanding privacy concern. It's tough to locate all of the cameras, but I would be interested in a routing system built in OpenStreetMap which w

This is an ever expanding privacy concern. It's tough to locate all of the cameras, but I would be interested in a routing system built in OpenStreetMap which would avoid road segments containing the cameras.

kotaKat 2y ago
Private businesses are starting to get them, too. Lowes has been deploying them over the past year or so as part of loss prevention upgrades apparently, so they're feeding the Flock, so to say.
- DavidPeiffer 2y ago
  I noticed one outside of my local Lowes a couple weeks ago. My city has deployed a number of them, including one less than a mile from my house. It's one thing for a business to install security cameras to locally monitor their premises, but the low cost and scale this is being deployed at is terrifying.
  - kotaKat 2y ago
    The best part is they're willing to grift people to shill it to their local homeowners association to deploy them privately! for a whole $50. https://www.flocksafety.com/refer-hoa-board https://www.flocksafety.com/refer-hoa-board
heroprotagonist 2y ago
You literally couldn't go anywhere, at this point. At least, not very far. A mile or two maybe, in a rural area? A decade ago, maybe you could avoid being tracked if you took only back roads in the country and avoided towns and cities. But now every house you pass with some private security system or vendor in it (in addition to all of the other sources, plus those set up on roadways) is reporting back to someone, and they're selling either the raw video or the processed data. Lots of people reading this probably subscribe to such a system and don't even know that they're contributing through whatever private system they or the property they reside in are using, because it's buried and obscured under ridiculously vague terms about third-party data sharing vendors. This article has done the disservice of making it seem like a single company expanding over a few years in an otherwise empty market. But it's not an empty market, it's just a new player gaining share as commodity-level tech matures.

kotaKat 2y ago

Private businesses are starting to get them, too. Lowes has been deploying them over the past year or so as part of loss prevention upgrades apparently, so they're feeding the Flock, so to say.

DavidPeiffer 2y ago
I noticed one outside of my local Lowes a couple weeks ago. My city has deployed a number of them, including one less than a mile from my house. It's one thing for a business to install security cameras to locally monitor their premises, but the low cost and scale this is being deployed at is terrifying.
- kotaKat 2y ago
  The best part is they're willing to grift people to shill it to their local homeowners association to deploy them privately! for a whole $50. https://www.flocksafety.com/refer-hoa-board https://www.flocksafety.com/refer-hoa-board

heroprotagonist 2y ago

You literally couldn't go anywhere, at this point. At least, not very far. A mile or two maybe, in a rural area? A decade ago, maybe you could avoid being tracked if you took only back roads in the country and avoided towns and cities. But now every house you pass with some private security system or vendor in it (in addition to all of the other sources, plus those set up on roadways) is reporting back to someone, and they're selling either the raw video or the processed data. Lots of people reading this probably subscribe to such a system and don't even know that they're contributing through whatever private system they or the property they reside in are using, because it's buried and obscured under ridiculously vague terms about third-party data sharing vendors. This article has done the disservice of making it seem like a single company expanding over a few years in an otherwise empty market. But it's not an empty market, it's just a new player gaining share as commodity-level tech matures.