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> but this layoff pushed me away from the brand. Why? They already have the largest network in the industry. And whatever the news says, they not gone fire eve

> but this layoff pushed me away from the brand. Why? They already have the largest network in the industry. And whatever the news says, they not gone fire everybody involved and stop making more superchargers.

alephnerd 3y ago
> And whatever the news says, they not gone fire everybody involved and stop making more superchargers The entire supercharger division was laid off [0], from the head of the BU (Rebecca Tinucci) to all the ICs. [0] - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/musk-disbands-tesla-ev-charging-team-leaving-customers-dark-2024-04-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/musk-d...
- panick21_ 3y ago
  > according to two former employees and multiple postings on LinkedIn I have serious question about what 'entire' means here. This is almost certainty a reorganization and not everybody is gone. Manufacturing and maintenance is certainty gone continue. Musk then said: > Musk subsequently said on X that the carmaker still plans to expand the Supercharger network, "just at a slower pace for new locations and more focus on 100% uptime and expansion of existing locations." The reality is, Tesla Superchargers are still far more reliable then the competitors (at least in the US). And its unlikely that these firing will change that balance anytime soon.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    That's too much risk for me to put on a $50-70k car - that's downpayment money for a condo.
    - panick21_ 3y ago
      So you are gone trust the companies that have invested virtually nothing in charging for 10 years instead, and trust them? Seems a bit strange. I'm not saying you should buy a Tesla, but this reason doesn't really add up to me.
greedo 3y ago
They literally just did this...
- panick21_ 3y ago
  We have no actual data about exactly what happened and how they are actually reorganizing things. There is literally 0% chance that literally everybody related to Superchargers was fired. There is 0% chance that the whole maintenance organization was fired. The sources that are suggest here its comments from fired employees, and those kinds of comments can very much lead exacerbation. This isn't the first time we got reports that 'every XY' was fired and it turned out to not actually be true in various ways.
  - smith7018 3y ago
    > There is literally 0% chance that literally everybody related to Superchargers was fired. There is 0% chance that the whole maintenance organization was fired. The only sources we have say they fired the entire division. Sure, we can wait for the dust to settle before conclusively saying what happened but "literally 0% chance" is objectively wrong.
    - panick21_ 3y ago
      They have 10000 of chargers in the wild. Do you think there is nobody at Tesla that knows anything about Supercharger because somebody that was just fired used the term 'entire division'? And what 'division' was it, what was its responsibility exactly?
      - greedo 3y ago
        Musk had developers PRINT OUT THEIR CODE to try and determine who was essential to Twitter...
delabay 3y ago
Allow me to drop an alternative theory for this mass firing. Tesla had a large layoff several weeks ago. Some execs pushed back, requested waivers or flat out refused to comply. Elon says: can't give me 20%? How about 100%. This is all about sending a message to executive staff about who is in control. Not about the business unit, not about performance.

alephnerd 3y ago

> And whatever the news says, they not gone fire everybody involved and stop making more superchargers The entire supercharger division was laid off [0], from the head of the BU (Rebecca Tinucci) to all the ICs. [0] - https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/musk-disbands-tesla-ev-charging-team-leaving-customers-dark-2024-04-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/musk-d...

panick21_ 3y ago
> according to two former employees and multiple postings on LinkedIn I have serious question about what 'entire' means here. This is almost certainty a reorganization and not everybody is gone. Manufacturing and maintenance is certainty gone continue. Musk then said: > Musk subsequently said on X that the carmaker still plans to expand the Supercharger network, "just at a slower pace for new locations and more focus on 100% uptime and expansion of existing locations." The reality is, Tesla Superchargers are still far more reliable then the competitors (at least in the US). And its unlikely that these firing will change that balance anytime soon.
- alephnerd 3y ago
  That's too much risk for me to put on a $50-70k car - that's downpayment money for a condo.
  - panick21_ 3y ago
    So you are gone trust the companies that have invested virtually nothing in charging for 10 years instead, and trust them? Seems a bit strange. I'm not saying you should buy a Tesla, but this reason doesn't really add up to me.

greedo 3y ago

They literally just did this...

panick21_ 3y ago
We have no actual data about exactly what happened and how they are actually reorganizing things. There is literally 0% chance that literally everybody related to Superchargers was fired. There is 0% chance that the whole maintenance organization was fired. The sources that are suggest here its comments from fired employees, and those kinds of comments can very much lead exacerbation. This isn't the first time we got reports that 'every XY' was fired and it turned out to not actually be true in various ways.
- smith7018 3y ago
  > There is literally 0% chance that literally everybody related to Superchargers was fired. There is 0% chance that the whole maintenance organization was fired. The only sources we have say they fired the entire division. Sure, we can wait for the dust to settle before conclusively saying what happened but "literally 0% chance" is objectively wrong.
  - panick21_ 3y ago
    They have 10000 of chargers in the wild. Do you think there is nobody at Tesla that knows anything about Supercharger because somebody that was just fired used the term 'entire division'? And what 'division' was it, what was its responsibility exactly?
    - greedo 3y ago
      Musk had developers PRINT OUT THEIR CODE to try and determine who was essential to Twitter...

delabay 3y ago

Allow me to drop an alternative theory for this mass firing. Tesla had a large layoff several weeks ago. Some execs pushed back, requested waivers or flat out refused to comply. Elon says: can't give me 20%? How about 100%. This is all about sending a message to executive staff about who is in control. Not about the business unit, not about performance.