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Kind of buried the lead when they wrote that regulators are pushing Tesla to effectively nationalize their charger network and they just coincidentally cut the

Kind of buried the lead when they wrote that regulators are pushing Tesla to effectively nationalize their charger network and they just coincidentally cut the entire team.

potatolicious 2y ago
> "But with regulators in both Europe and the US pushing the firm to open the Supercharger network to owners of other electric vehicles, it will offer less of an advantage in the future." Mandatory interop is not nationalization. Words have specific meanings. As far as I can tell there have been zero calls to nationalize the Supercharger network from anyone.
- AbrahamParangi 2y ago
  Nationalized in that the benefit is socialized and there is now little to no incentive for Tesla to improve their network as it doesn't advance their market position. I don't see how this is hard to understand.
tejohnso 2y ago
> "But with regulators in both Europe and the US pushing the firm to open the Supercharger network to owners of other electric vehicles, it will offer less of an advantage in the future." How hard can this be pushed? Tesla put in all the work, took all the risk, and now they can be forced to share it and give up one of their competitive advantages? Maybe in Europe, but it doesn't seem like a U.S. kind of move, where normally you put in the work and risk, you reap the rewards rather than being forced to hand over what you've earned to the competitors.
- kgermino 2y ago
  Your parent is either misinformed or misleading. At least in the US (not familiar with Europe) there haven’t even been mentions of nationalization. Beyond that, the “pressure” for interoperability has entirely been tied to federal funding. The feds have money available to build electric charging stations, but the catch is that it has to work with cars from other manufacturers. If you don’t take the money, you can do whatever you want
tiahura 2y ago
Not really. This isn’t about government boogeymen, it’s that people have wised-up about paying 50 to 80 grand for a golf cart.
cptskippy 2y ago
> ... regulators are pushing Tesla to effectively nationalize their charger network... No. Nationalize: To convert from private to governmental ownership and control.
xyst 2y ago
“ "But with regulators in both Europe and the US pushing the firm to open the Supercharger network to owners of other electric vehicles, it will offer less of an advantage in the future." “ How exactly does making the Tesla charging infrastructure system open for other car manufacturers “nationalize” the network? Network still owned and managed by private company. Private company has still manages day to day maintenance. Maybe private company gets a small kickback in return or tax deduction? But this is far from a nationalization of a privately owned infrastructure. Looking of the popular VOD service, I see Tesla offers membership for non-Tesla owners and they can pay the membership fee or the market price at point of sale. https://youtu.be/W-oaVLRH-js https://youtu.be/W-oaVLRH-js

Kind of buried the lead when they wrote that regulators are pushing Tesla to effectively nationalize their charger network and they just coincidentally cut the entire team.

potatolicious 2y ago

> "But with regulators in both Europe and the US pushing the firm to open the Supercharger network to owners of other electric vehicles, it will offer less of an advantage in the future." Mandatory interop is not nationalization. Words have specific meanings. As far as I can tell there have been zero calls to nationalize the Supercharger network from anyone.

AbrahamParangi 2y ago
Nationalized in that the benefit is socialized and there is now little to no incentive for Tesla to improve their network as it doesn't advance their market position. I don't see how this is hard to understand.

tejohnso 2y ago

> "But with regulators in both Europe and the US pushing the firm to open the Supercharger network to owners of other electric vehicles, it will offer less of an advantage in the future." How hard can this be pushed? Tesla put in all the work, took all the risk, and now they can be forced to share it and give up one of their competitive advantages? Maybe in Europe, but it doesn't seem like a U.S. kind of move, where normally you put in the work and risk, you reap the rewards rather than being forced to hand over what you've earned to the competitors.

kgermino 2y ago
Your parent is either misinformed or misleading. At least in the US (not familiar with Europe) there haven’t even been mentions of nationalization. Beyond that, the “pressure” for interoperability has entirely been tied to federal funding. The feds have money available to build electric charging stations, but the catch is that it has to work with cars from other manufacturers. If you don’t take the money, you can do whatever you want

tiahura 2y ago

Not really. This isn’t about government boogeymen, it’s that people have wised-up about paying 50 to 80 grand for a golf cart.

cptskippy 2y ago

> ... regulators are pushing Tesla to effectively nationalize their charger network... No. Nationalize: To convert from private to governmental ownership and control.

xyst 2y ago

“ "But with regulators in both Europe and the US pushing the firm to open the Supercharger network to owners of other electric vehicles, it will offer less of an advantage in the future." “ How exactly does making the Tesla charging infrastructure system open for other car manufacturers “nationalize” the network? Network still owned and managed by private company. Private company has still manages day to day maintenance. Maybe private company gets a small kickback in return or tax deduction? But this is far from a nationalization of a privately owned infrastructure. Looking of the popular VOD service, I see Tesla offers membership for non-Tesla owners and they can pay the membership fee or the market price at point of sale. https://youtu.be/W-oaVLRH-js https://youtu.be/W-oaVLRH-js