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I think a large part of the problem is that a lot of people seem to have trouble consolidating that someone can have both positive and negative qualities at the

I think a large part of the problem is that a lot of people seem to have trouble consolidating that someone can have both positive and negative qualities at the same time.

admissionsguy 2y ago
People are disconcerted by the fact that Musk is just a human like them who happens to wield huge resources. They prefer to think of the elite class as their betters, a separate category, hence the convention for the “ruling class” to have decorum, present curated image, and so on.
- hobs 2y ago
  He doesn't meet the standards of behavior of any class that I would associate with.
  - throwitaway222 2y ago
    It is unfortunate that the left doesn't want to talk to anyone any more. However, IRL I bet you would be bowing and shaking his hand if you had the op.
    - hobs 2y ago
      Hilarious comment, I would be glad to reach my hand out so I can squeeze his baby flesh.
martijnarts 2y ago
While I think that's at play, I also think it's entirely fair to hold those with more power to higher standards.
- HPsquared 2y ago
  Standards are set by those with power. A bit of a tautology.
- amarant 2y ago
  It is entirely fair to do so. And I'm not a huge fan of a lot of things Elon has written on Twitter. I don't really care about him buying it too much, but that's at least partially because I don't use it and never did. Anyway, what really gets me is people denying that Elon has some real chops when it comes to engineering and business management. A lot of people even take it one step further and pretend like Tesla isn't a capable EV producer, because Elon once wrote something on twitter that upset them. The problem there isn't that they're upset with Elon, that's totally fine, he frequently earns that. But being unable to recognize that he had also done some good work that is completely unrelated to those silly remarks on twitter, that is the problem. This phenomenon should not be confused with criticizing actual flaws in any work Elon has done, which is of course great, but that's very often not what's happening in "discussions" about his companies.

I think a large part of the problem is that a lot of people seem to have trouble consolidating that someone can have both positive and negative qualities at the same time.

admissionsguy 2y ago

People are disconcerted by the fact that Musk is just a human like them who happens to wield huge resources. They prefer to think of the elite class as their betters, a separate category, hence the convention for the “ruling class” to have decorum, present curated image, and so on.

hobs 2y ago
He doesn't meet the standards of behavior of any class that I would associate with.
- throwitaway222 2y ago
  It is unfortunate that the left doesn't want to talk to anyone any more. However, IRL I bet you would be bowing and shaking his hand if you had the op.
  - hobs 2y ago
    Hilarious comment, I would be glad to reach my hand out so I can squeeze his baby flesh.

martijnarts 2y ago

While I think that's at play, I also think it's entirely fair to hold those with more power to higher standards.

HPsquared 2y ago
Standards are set by those with power. A bit of a tautology.
amarant 2y ago
It is entirely fair to do so. And I'm not a huge fan of a lot of things Elon has written on Twitter. I don't really care about him buying it too much, but that's at least partially because I don't use it and never did. Anyway, what really gets me is people denying that Elon has some real chops when it comes to engineering and business management. A lot of people even take it one step further and pretend like Tesla isn't a capable EV producer, because Elon once wrote something on twitter that upset them. The problem there isn't that they're upset with Elon, that's totally fine, he frequently earns that. But being unable to recognize that he had also done some good work that is completely unrelated to those silly remarks on twitter, that is the problem. This phenomenon should not be confused with criticizing actual flaws in any work Elon has done, which is of course great, but that's very often not what's happening in "discussions" about his companies.