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The charger standard is CCS. It was always open. What's happening in North America is that everyone will use CCS with Tesla's plug on the end. It's CCS type 3.
by peutetre 3y ago
The charger standard is CCS. It was always open.
What's happening in North America is that everyone will use CCS with Tesla's plug on the end. It's CCS type 3.
Older Teslas will need a retrofit to be able to talk CCS. Tesla chargers will still support Tesla's now dead protocol.
- sp332 3y agoI think that's a weird way to look at it, but anyway, Tesla doesn't need to expand the network of Tesla-compatible chargers anymore.
- peutetre 3y agoIt's the factual way to look at it.
- quonn 3y agoThis seems to be wrong, CCS type 3 looks completely different: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_3_connector https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_3_connector
- peutetre 3y agoThat type 3 was obsoleted and was never used as part of CCS.
- quonn 3y agoPlease stop your disinformation campaign here. You are making things up and as part of that you are giving an industry standard name a new meaning.
- peutetre 3y agoThere is no disinformation. The protocol is CCS. That's how it works. How do you think it works?
- quonn 3y agoYou claimed „It's CCS type 3“, which it is not. Instead the NACS is the proprietary Tesla plug but using the CCS protocol instead of a CAN-based one. Practically this means that all superchargers remain compatible and it also means that all cars with the CCS plug are not compatible (unless the plug is changed or an adapter is used). Therefore your statement is misleading in addition to being plain wrong about „Type 3“. Tesla has, of course, always also supported the CCS outside of the United States, both inside the superchargers and inside the cars.
- peutetre 3y agoSo you admit it's the third plug used by CCS. You've made progress. The Tesla plug is no longer proprietary. It's been standardized as SAE J3400. CCS won.
- quonn 3y agoNo, it‘s not the third plug and it‘s certainly not „Type 3“. > The Tesla plug is no longer proprietary. It's been standardized as SAE J3400. Of course, that‘s the very meaning of opening up the plug.
- peutetre 3y agoOf course it's the third CCS plug. Europe uses type 2. North America will slowly give up on Type 1. But they'll still be using CCS, as you yourself admit. Tesla's protocol is dead.
- quonn 3y agoThe NACS is not part of CCS. The plug type is not part of CCS either. And what you called „Type 3“ is in fact a completely different plug that uses this name as standard. And I‘ll leave the „discussion“ at that.
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- donor20 3y agoScame plug is dead dead - how is NACS ccs type 3. The whole point is that it's is NOT ccs type 3 - which is actually largely dead everywhere anyways
- peutetre 3y agoIt's the third plug that CCS uses. The whole point of NACS is that it is CCS. It's going to be easy for everyone to support it because they support CCS already. Charger manufacturers like that. Charging networks like that. Car manufacturers like that. All they're changing is the plug.
- revnode 3y agoThe plug is the thing that matters, not the protocol. It will enable non-Tesla vehicles to use the Tesla network.
- peutetre 3y agoNo, it all matters. Supporting yet another protocol was not wanted by anyone. The CCS support was already there so it won out.