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Nepal: How do I negotiate a higher salary when my current salary is low?

My current salary is around 150$ in Nepal. (I am underpaid, my colleagues with same experience are making around 250$). After few months, I will be experienced for 1.5 years. There is a big company in Nepal and I heard they pay 1.5 YOE 600$ per month. I talked with my colleague and he told me that you've just 150$ now, and if you ask for 600$ you won't get it, which I agree. I've already contacted my manager here in this company and he has clarified that the ceiling of appraisal is 250$ this year from 150$. If this contunues, I will forever be left years behind my colleagues. What to do?

bell-cot 2y ago
Suggestion: Add "in Nepal" to your title, to (hopefully) attract commenters who are more familiar with the situation there.
jalapenos 2y ago
You don't, it's a waste of time. Instead, you work to get into another company, like the one you mentioned. I've never once in my career heard of a case where someone successfully got a raise at the same company greater than they could've gotten by changing job. The effect is especially pronounced earlier in career. Juniors start at such a low basis that even if the company, using typical percentage based raises, gives a generous raise of 10%, it's usually not aligned with the change in market value, and they can get 20 or 30% plus by job hopping. I saw a job-hopping junior double their salary in the space of two years due to this effect. I also saw a "junior" who was basically at senior level of performance continue to sit in the same job earning an entry level wage for year after year. It bordered on masochism. Companies just aren't very good at marking juniors to market. The only solution is to do it yourself.
- shivajikobardan 2y ago
  I am telling that I think even the new company won't pay me 3x the current salary. If they know I am making only that much now.
  - jalapenos 2y ago
    How would they know? Read patio11's article on salary negotiation
    - gus_massa 2y ago
      Direct link https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ HN discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24588379 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24588379 (420 points | Sept 2020 | 263 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36557679 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36557679 (128 points | 10 months ago | 46 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19262732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19262732 (72 points | Feb 2019 | 14 comments)
austin-cheney 2y ago
Here is how I did it a million years ago when I got 3 raises in a year at Travelocity and doubled my income. 1. I came back from a military deployment and was reassigned from marketing to product development. My salary had fallen off the bottom side of the pay scale. My manager noticed this and gave me a big raise. Had I brought this to his attention earlier I would have gotten that raise earlier. 2. I applied to become the A/B test engineer for the company. That position came with a raise and a promotion. While in that position I pioneered new techniques that allowed faster test delivery at extreme durability (vanilla JS and old style DOM methods). I demonstrated high value and they couldn’t find anybody competent to replace me. 3. A little after really figuring how to write those A/B test experiments some other company tried to poach me at a higher rate. I brought their offer letter back to Travelocity who then gave me a raise exceeding the number on the offer letter.

bell-cot 2y ago

Suggestion: Add "in Nepal" to your title, to (hopefully) attract commenters who are more familiar with the situation there.

jalapenos 2y ago

You don't, it's a waste of time. Instead, you work to get into another company, like the one you mentioned. I've never once in my career heard of a case where someone successfully got a raise at the same company greater than they could've gotten by changing job. The effect is especially pronounced earlier in career. Juniors start at such a low basis that even if the company, using typical percentage based raises, gives a generous raise of 10%, it's usually not aligned with the change in market value, and they can get 20 or 30% plus by job hopping. I saw a job-hopping junior double their salary in the space of two years due to this effect. I also saw a "junior" who was basically at senior level of performance continue to sit in the same job earning an entry level wage for year after year. It bordered on masochism. Companies just aren't very good at marking juniors to market. The only solution is to do it yourself.

shivajikobardan 2y ago
I am telling that I think even the new company won't pay me 3x the current salary. If they know I am making only that much now.
- jalapenos 2y ago
  How would they know? Read patio11's article on salary negotiation
  - gus_massa 2y ago
    Direct link https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ HN discussions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24588379 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24588379 (420 points | Sept 2020 | 263 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36557679 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36557679 (128 points | 10 months ago | 46 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19262732 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19262732 (72 points | Feb 2019 | 14 comments)

austin-cheney 2y ago

Here is how I did it a million years ago when I got 3 raises in a year at Travelocity and doubled my income. 1. I came back from a military deployment and was reassigned from marketing to product development. My salary had fallen off the bottom side of the pay scale. My manager noticed this and gave me a big raise. Had I brought this to his attention earlier I would have gotten that raise earlier. 2. I applied to become the A/B test engineer for the company. That position came with a raise and a promotion. While in that position I pioneered new techniques that allowed faster test delivery at extreme durability (vanilla JS and old style DOM methods). I demonstrated high value and they couldn’t find anybody competent to replace me. 3. A little after really figuring how to write those A/B test experiments some other company tried to poach me at a higher rate. I brought their offer letter back to Travelocity who then gave me a raise exceeding the number on the offer letter.