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Yeah that's not going to go down well with first nations Australians. They're sensitive about cultural appropriation, with some justification. I don't think t

Yeah that's not going to go down well with first nations Australians. They're sensitive about cultural appropriation, with some justification. I don't think the argument of the Latin origin would be given much heed. Then again, likely no-one will notice a small software project.

jojobas 3y ago
If you intend to avoid rustling jimmies anywhere in the world you're in for a hard time with your naming.
Willish42 3y ago
Yeah... I'm not even Australian and this being some sort of indie OS build made by or for indigenous Australians was my first guess at what this was. I had a similar concern but you stated it way better than I could've. Thanks for doing so Naming is hard.
chris_wot 3y ago
I'm not sure it is too jarring - if they had called it Aborigine Linux then there might have been a small outcry.
- klyrs 3y ago
  Yes and no. Aboriginal peoples world 'round have been displaced and slaughtered. The name conjures all meanings of the word, as is the nature of words, consequently there is a distinct and predictable reflex to associate this name with atrocity in a general sense. Naming is hard. Offense unintended is often perceived as neglect or callousness. Names can change; history cannot.
viraptor 3y ago
There are other indigenous cultures which use the name, for example Aboriginal Canadians. I'm not sure why any of the groups would care about the naming of the project though. The naming controversies I'm aware of are about the names used for the indigenous people, not completely external names. It feels weird to assume it would be an issue, unless there's some specific cases you have in mind?
rswskg 3y ago
Then why bring it up?
blueflow 3y ago
As you have noticed, the word has Latin origins. Who is appropriating whom?
- klyrs 3y ago
  You accuse a conquered people of appropriating language that forced them to assimilate or die?
  - blueflow 3y ago
    Who did i accuse? What an odd thing to say.
    - klyrs 3y ago
      I've misunderstood, then. Do elaborate on your question "Who is appropriating whom?"
      - blueflow 3y ago
        What is there to elaborate? The term is used in multiple contexts. If you think that there is someone who is more right to exclusively use it for their thing, feel free to tell.
  - worik 3y ago
    > You accuse a conquered people of appropriating language Not accusing anyone The indigenous Australians have different names for themselves than "aboriginal", which is a generic term Australians did not bother with them (in many ways) and use a Latin origin word I do not think this is an issue, but hearing from an indigenous Australian would be useful if it were an issue
adultSwim 3y ago
It sure made me uncomfortable.

jojobas 3y ago

If you intend to avoid rustling jimmies anywhere in the world you're in for a hard time with your naming.

Willish42 3y ago

Yeah... I'm not even Australian and this being some sort of indie OS build made by or for indigenous Australians was my first guess at what this was. I had a similar concern but you stated it way better than I could've. Thanks for doing so Naming is hard.

chris_wot 3y ago

I'm not sure it is too jarring - if they had called it Aborigine Linux then there might have been a small outcry.

klyrs 3y ago
Yes and no. Aboriginal peoples world 'round have been displaced and slaughtered. The name conjures all meanings of the word, as is the nature of words, consequently there is a distinct and predictable reflex to associate this name with atrocity in a general sense. Naming is hard. Offense unintended is often perceived as neglect or callousness. Names can change; history cannot.

viraptor 3y ago

There are other indigenous cultures which use the name, for example Aboriginal Canadians. I'm not sure why any of the groups would care about the naming of the project though. The naming controversies I'm aware of are about the names used for the indigenous people, not completely external names. It feels weird to assume it would be an issue, unless there's some specific cases you have in mind?

rswskg 3y ago

Then why bring it up?

blueflow 3y ago

As you have noticed, the word has Latin origins. Who is appropriating whom?

klyrs 3y ago
You accuse a conquered people of appropriating language that forced them to assimilate or die?
- blueflow 3y ago
  Who did i accuse? What an odd thing to say.
  - klyrs 3y ago
    I've misunderstood, then. Do elaborate on your question "Who is appropriating whom?"
    - blueflow 3y ago
      What is there to elaborate? The term is used in multiple contexts. If you think that there is someone who is more right to exclusively use it for their thing, feel free to tell.
- worik 3y ago
  > You accuse a conquered people of appropriating language Not accusing anyone The indigenous Australians have different names for themselves than "aboriginal", which is a generic term Australians did not bother with them (in many ways) and use a Latin origin word I do not think this is an issue, but hearing from an indigenous Australian would be useful if it were an issue

adultSwim 3y ago

It sure made me uncomfortable.