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Related submissions: Open letter to the NixOS foundation (50 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40107370 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40107

by srid 2y ago

Related submissions: Open letter to the NixOS foundation (50 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40107370 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40107370 The dire state of NixOS's moderation culture (87 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40166912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40166912 --- Additionally, these r/NixOS submissions may be of interest: Jon Ringer: "In case I'm unable to return, wish you all the best" (348 comments) https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cd5fod/in_case_im_unable_to_return_wish_you_all_the_best/ https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cd5fod/in_case_im_u... Transparency about jonringer’s suspension (153 comments) https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1ceeg8h/transparency_about_jonringers_suspension/ https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1ceeg8h/transparency... Thoughts on Jon Ringer's temporary suspension (71 comments) https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1ceiz36/thoughts_on_jon_ringers_temporary_suspension/ https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1ceiz36/thoughts_on_... Moderation no-go zones (55 comments; ongoing) https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cfv8vo/moderation_nogo_zones/ https://old.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cfv8vo/moderation_n... --- Finally, the RFC to improve the situation: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/175 https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/175

_cenw 2y ago
You forgot this one: https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/e9d67b7efa03e6e9bc0bf2d03c6344d60c103395 https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/e9d67b7efa03e6e9b...
- anonfordays 2y ago
  That thread just makes me believe srid even more. Salient point here: "Evidently, Srid's concerns and values, as well as the recommendations and compromises he proposed in response to the charges, were casually dismissed, while other members' concerns and values, as well as their calls for his punishment and sanction, were disproportionately elevated. And that's unfortunate."
  - _cenw 2y ago
    I'm not sure what there is to believe. Srid started relitigating his impending suspension over the moderation teams head when it became clear that his values do not align with the moderators (or, if I can say that, most decent people that don't see left-wing conspiracies everywhere, casually go on about gender ideology destroying the west and perpetuate covid denial - so also likely the modified CoC of Nix). That is the worst way to go about challenging authority you don't like if you don't want bridges to burn.
    - anonfordays 2y ago
      >Srid started relitigating his impending suspension over the moderation teams head I haven't been closely monitoring the various NixOS spaces, but this seems nebulous. >it became clear that his values do not align with the moderators Nor should there be a requirement that they do. If you want an inclusive environment, you're going to have members with different values. >(or, if I can say that, most decent people that don't see left-wing conspiracies everywhere, casually go on about gender ideology destroying the west and perpetuate covid denial - so also likely the modified CoC of Nix) (or, if I can say that, most decent people that don't see right-wing conspiracies everywhere, casually go on about Christo-fascism destroying the west and perpetuate biological denial - so also likely the modified CoC of Nix) See what I did there? You don't get to define your political ideals as the ones "decent people" align with. All sides believe they're moral.
      - _cenw 2y ago
        It's in the thread I linked, the very post you quoted. He started a poll to ask if he should be banned over him posting the "unwoke" page of his digital garden, when the stipulation he already preliminarily agreed to was to not bring it up in Nix spaces. An organization that allows for persistent relitigating and rules-lawyering can't have effective moderation (they're not countries after all), do I don't know what you think the alternative is. And now the same people that want (impossibly) apolitical spaces want this guy to also be able to post this very political rant that you've probably heard before somewhere in some form, that everyone else is endlessly tired of. https://srid.ca/unwoke https://srid.ca/unwoke - in case you are missing more context.

by srid 2y ago

_cenw 2y ago

You forgot this one: https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/e9d67b7efa03e6e9bc0bf2d03c6344d60c103395 https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/e9d67b7efa03e6e9b...

anonfordays 2y ago
That thread just makes me believe srid even more. Salient point here: "Evidently, Srid's concerns and values, as well as the recommendations and compromises he proposed in response to the charges, were casually dismissed, while other members' concerns and values, as well as their calls for his punishment and sanction, were disproportionately elevated. And that's unfortunate."
- _cenw 2y ago
  I'm not sure what there is to believe. Srid started relitigating his impending suspension over the moderation teams head when it became clear that his values do not align with the moderators (or, if I can say that, most decent people that don't see left-wing conspiracies everywhere, casually go on about gender ideology destroying the west and perpetuate covid denial - so also likely the modified CoC of Nix). That is the worst way to go about challenging authority you don't like if you don't want bridges to burn.
  - anonfordays 2y ago
    >Srid started relitigating his impending suspension over the moderation teams head I haven't been closely monitoring the various NixOS spaces, but this seems nebulous. >it became clear that his values do not align with the moderators Nor should there be a requirement that they do. If you want an inclusive environment, you're going to have members with different values. >(or, if I can say that, most decent people that don't see left-wing conspiracies everywhere, casually go on about gender ideology destroying the west and perpetuate covid denial - so also likely the modified CoC of Nix) (or, if I can say that, most decent people that don't see right-wing conspiracies everywhere, casually go on about Christo-fascism destroying the west and perpetuate biological denial - so also likely the modified CoC of Nix) See what I did there? You don't get to define your political ideals as the ones "decent people" align with. All sides believe they're moral.
    - _cenw 2y ago
      It's in the thread I linked, the very post you quoted. He started a poll to ask if he should be banned over him posting the "unwoke" page of his digital garden, when the stipulation he already preliminarily agreed to was to not bring it up in Nix spaces. An organization that allows for persistent relitigating and rules-lawyering can't have effective moderation (they're not countries after all), do I don't know what you think the alternative is. And now the same people that want (impossibly) apolitical spaces want this guy to also be able to post this very political rant that you've probably heard before somewhere in some form, that everyone else is endlessly tired of. https://srid.ca/unwoke https://srid.ca/unwoke - in case you are missing more context.