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A lot of people are spreading a false equivalence between being antisemitic and protesting the slaughter of civilians and children. Does that count?

by hedora 3y ago

khazhoux 3y ago
This is very true. Still, I’m terribly disappointed how reticent that side is to strongly condemn Hamas and 10/7. Their message is not clean.
- adhamsalama 3y ago
  The Onion really isn't satire. https://www.theonion.com/dying-gazans-criticized-for-not-using-last-words-to-con-1850925657 https://www.theonion.com/dying-gazans-criticized-for-not-usi...
Shekelphile 3y ago
Israel doesn't slaughter civilians. In fact, asymmetric tactics and terror attacks against civilians is constantly perpetrated by hamas (as evidenced on 10/7)
- PieTime 3y ago
  Look up settlement activities, with armed settlers activity removing family often with the blessing of the IDF.
- khazhoux 3y ago
  > Israel doesn't slaughter civilians It’s hard to square this statement against the 13-to-25,000 estimated (Assoc Press vs Al Jazeera) dead women and children in the last 6 months though. Just objectively speaking, that is a shocking number of civilian deaths even at the low end.
  - Shekelphile 3y ago
    What? No, it's quite easy to 'square' it actually. Civilian casualties are inevitable when hamas embeds itself into the civilian populace and forces them to stay in the positions they operate from. Did you have similar outrage when the Russian air force was dropping 1000lb dumb bombs on similarly densely populated cities in Syria from 2015-2017? I guarantee you a lot more civilians died needlessly in places like aleppo and palmyra than Israel has ever 'slaughtered'.
    - tovej 3y ago
      There are confirmed accounts from inside the Israeli army that they select their targets algorithmically without confirmation, wait for their target to enter a residential building, and then bomb the building, accepting up to tens of civilian collateral damage to kill one "suspected Hamas operative". Remember that Hamas operates most government functions within Gaza, so anyone seen doing organizing work to help Palestinians survive could be categorized as a "Hamas operative" by the IDF.
- adhamsalama 3y ago
  Over 34000 dead Palestinians, most of whom were women and children, including in the west bank where Hamas doesn't operate disagree with you. Also they're starving Palestinians, and preventing aid from entering, which would be used by starving malnourished children and critically injured people (including children too).
- Georgelemental 3y ago
  https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/ https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

A lot of people are spreading a false equivalence between being antisemitic and protesting the slaughter of civilians and children. Does that count?

by hedora 3y ago

A lot of people are spreading a false equivalence between being antisemitic and protesting the slaughter of civilians and children. Does that count?

khazhoux 3y ago

This is very true. Still, I’m terribly disappointed how reticent that side is to strongly condemn Hamas and 10/7. Their message is not clean.

adhamsalama 3y ago
The Onion really isn't satire. https://www.theonion.com/dying-gazans-criticized-for-not-using-last-words-to-con-1850925657 https://www.theonion.com/dying-gazans-criticized-for-not-usi...

Shekelphile 3y ago

Israel doesn't slaughter civilians. In fact, asymmetric tactics and terror attacks against civilians is constantly perpetrated by hamas (as evidenced on 10/7)

PieTime 3y ago
Look up settlement activities, with armed settlers activity removing family often with the blessing of the IDF.
khazhoux 3y ago
> Israel doesn't slaughter civilians It’s hard to square this statement against the 13-to-25,000 estimated (Assoc Press vs Al Jazeera) dead women and children in the last 6 months though. Just objectively speaking, that is a shocking number of civilian deaths even at the low end.
- Shekelphile 3y ago
  What? No, it's quite easy to 'square' it actually. Civilian casualties are inevitable when hamas embeds itself into the civilian populace and forces them to stay in the positions they operate from. Did you have similar outrage when the Russian air force was dropping 1000lb dumb bombs on similarly densely populated cities in Syria from 2015-2017? I guarantee you a lot more civilians died needlessly in places like aleppo and palmyra than Israel has ever 'slaughtered'.
  - tovej 3y ago
    There are confirmed accounts from inside the Israeli army that they select their targets algorithmically without confirmation, wait for their target to enter a residential building, and then bomb the building, accepting up to tens of civilian collateral damage to kill one "suspected Hamas operative". Remember that Hamas operates most government functions within Gaza, so anyone seen doing organizing work to help Palestinians survive could be categorized as a "Hamas operative" by the IDF.
adhamsalama 3y ago
Over 34000 dead Palestinians, most of whom were women and children, including in the west bank where Hamas doesn't operate disagree with you. Also they're starving Palestinians, and preventing aid from entering, which would be used by starving malnourished children and critically injured people (including children too).
Georgelemental 3y ago
https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/ https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/