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> where the most prominent voices support Hamas and what they did on Oct 7th This is a pretty unsupportable take from where I'm standing. Maybe we are in separ

by asib 2y ago

> where the most prominent voices support Hamas and what they did on Oct 7th This is a pretty unsupportable take from where I'm standing. Maybe we are in separate bubbles, but very little of the stuff I've seen/read is _in support of_ Oct 7th. Vast majority of voices condemn the attacks, request immediate ceasefire and immediate return of hostages. I know that line so well because of how much I've heard it.

ljsprague 2y ago
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ipaddr 2y ago
I've never seen an anti hamas shirt/sign or word spoken. I've never heard someone ask them to give up for the citizens of Gaza. Have you heard anyone ask for hamas to surrender? Why not.. don't they realized they made a very poor calculation that costs over 30,000 lives.
ActorNightly 2y ago
Saying you condemn Oct 7th but you support the overall cause to free palestine is like saying you condemn Russians murdering Ukrainian civilians but you support the overall cause to retake the territory. Doesn't really work like that.
- sevagh 2y ago
  Who's Russia in this analogy? Gaza?
  - nailer 2y ago
    Hamas. not everyone in gaza supports hamas but most do and their popularity has increased since October 7.
nailer 2y ago
> Maybe we are in separate bubbles, but very little of the stuff I've seen/read is _in support of_ Oct 7th. You should be able to find it pretty easily. Specifically you will find - people saying that all resistance is justified including the October 7 attacks. - You will also see people carrying the flag of the organisation that carried out the Oct 7 attacks. - Proclaiming glory and martyrdom to specific terrorists that participated in the October 7 attacks. - Claiming that people that participated in other violent attacks against Jews (stabbings, bombings) are simply innocent prisoners. - Proclaiming that intifada (which previously resulted in violent action against Jewish people worldwide) is the only solution

by asib 2y ago

ljsprague 2y ago

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ipaddr 2y ago

I've never seen an anti hamas shirt/sign or word spoken. I've never heard someone ask them to give up for the citizens of Gaza. Have you heard anyone ask for hamas to surrender? Why not.. don't they realized they made a very poor calculation that costs over 30,000 lives.

ActorNightly 2y ago

Saying you condemn Oct 7th but you support the overall cause to free palestine is like saying you condemn Russians murdering Ukrainian civilians but you support the overall cause to retake the territory. Doesn't really work like that.

sevagh 2y ago
Who's Russia in this analogy? Gaza?
- nailer 2y ago
  Hamas. not everyone in gaza supports hamas but most do and their popularity has increased since October 7.

nailer 2y ago

> Maybe we are in separate bubbles, but very little of the stuff I've seen/read is _in support of_ Oct 7th. You should be able to find it pretty easily. Specifically you will find - people saying that all resistance is justified including the October 7 attacks. - You will also see people carrying the flag of the organisation that carried out the Oct 7 attacks. - Proclaiming glory and martyrdom to specific terrorists that participated in the October 7 attacks. - Claiming that people that participated in other violent attacks against Jews (stabbings, bombings) are simply innocent prisoners. - Proclaiming that intifada (which previously resulted in violent action against Jewish people worldwide) is the only solution