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After they tried slipping a bitcoin miner in their mouse software that paid you in Razer Points, I was done with Razer. This seems on brand.

Rinzler89 2y ago
Some anti virus software used to do the same crypto mining gimmick.
consumer451 2y ago
While not a recommendation, I mentioned the Razer gaming laptop to a co-worker. He bought one, it started to de-laminate and bend itself into a potato chip. I had never seen anything like it. They would not take a return, he had to do a credit card charge back, and blamed me forever. Their laptops had a 50% failure rate at Linus Media Group, according to Luke during a WAN Show. Linus kept pushing them on his viewers though. This was years ago, and I will never understand how the company was not shamed into bankruptcy. Well, I guess I do understand. You can buy favorable media coverage and it scares the crap out of me.
- kevingadd 2y ago
  My sister had issues with her Razer laptop that ended up leading to needing new case screws so she could reassemble it after replacing a faulty battery and repairing a bad trackpad. They didn't have replacement screws, period. We had to buy them from a third party on Amazon. Kind of a clown company between that experience and every time I've bought one of their mice or keyboards (I learned my lesson after the third time...)
  - consumer451 2y ago
    Yeah, now that you mention it, looking back, I assume it was likely a battery swelling, after one month of use. However, he and I were not close and he was already pissed at me. I didn't offer to take a look.
- billy99k 2y ago
  I had a Razer laptop. The metal on the back split open at one point and became really sharp. Due to this and its bulky-ness, I got an Asus Rog Zephyrus and never looked back. I always used to like Asus as a company when I built computers back in the 90s. Still great quality.
  - xattt 2y ago
    > The metal on the back split open at one point and became really sharp. I am not sure why you are upset at this outcome, given the company name. /s
- bena 2y ago
  I guess that's what rainbow LEDs, sweet logos, and edgy branding will get you. And with streaming becoming popular, "functional" didn't really cut it anymore. Having a black MX Master/MX Keys combo doesn't really "pop" on screen. It's gotta have lights, match the aesthetic, etc. It working is almost immaterial.
  - spondylosaurus 2y ago
    Logitech makes hardware with Gamer Lights that doesn't fall apart in six months, at least :P I've been using one of their keyboards for four or five years now. Razer, on the other hand... I was once gifted a secondhand Razer Blade laptop whose mainboard went dead after a year or two of use. They quoted me $500 for parts alone on a 3+ year old model.
- whaleofatw2022 2y ago
  They made a lot of money on their WOW mice back in the day. They were like the Beats Audio of mice for MMO folks. The sheer number of buttons helped. Logitech had the G60? Mmo mouse but it didn't have the 'edgy styling' of razer' products. That said, I still have two of the logi's (never did MMO, but that thing was awesome for CAD) one is over a decade old, more than I can say about any of the razer trash my friends bought
  - saintfire 2y ago
    I had a Razer mouse for 10 years as well. I hated the software but the mouse wouldn't die. I also just had a Logitech mouse die in under 2 years. That said, I'm not advocating Razer, especially nowadays.
- xen0 2y ago
  > Their laptops had a 50% failure rate at Linus Media Group, according to Luke during a WAN Show. Linus kept pushing them on his viewers though. Do you have link to that particular show? It's surprising it was mentioned and that Linus was still 'supporting' it at the time.
  - consumer451 2y ago
    I'm sorry, I do not, this all happened a while ago. I am pretty sure of my recollection of the sequence of events, but take it with a grain of salt, just one grain though. It was awkward as heck. I gained a lot of respect for Luke that day for keeping it real.
  - banana_giraffe 2y ago
    I suspect this is the comment mentioned: https://youtu.be/_Sd608uzI0Q?t=710 https://youtu.be/_Sd608uzI0Q?t=710
    - consumer451 2y ago
      Exactly! I am really curious, how did you find this? Was it memory, or search?
      - banana_giraffe 2y ago
        Oh, my memory isn't nearly that good. I thought you were right, but I couldn't remember it more than that. I cobbled together the correct yt-dlp command to get all the subtitles and a little Python glue to search them.
        consumer451 2y ago
        OMGosh. Thank you. I did actually try to find it, but I put in much less effort via Google searches, and obviously failed. Thanks for taking the time. Now I need to learn more about yt-dlp. Would you mind sharing the yt-dlp command which helped you get all the subtitles?
c2h5oh 2y ago
Hardware wasn't great either. Both me and my wife had issues with right mouse button switches failing and registering two clicks instead of one. This was 5 mice across 2 models (2 we bought, 3 we got as warranty replacements) in just a year. It's been over a decade and it's still a razer-free household.
- jeffwask 2y ago
  Agreed, I use Corsair or Logi peripherals now.
- rasz 2y ago
  Ironically Logitech might be partly to blame for this. Logitech being the biggest Omron customer of D2F switches basically forced them to move manufacturing from Japan to China the way Walmart forces suppliers to cut costs until they bleed. Thus the era of "10 million click" switches dying precisely around 1 year of use began. Nowadays Razer and other high end mouse vendors use immortal Optical switches.
dheera 2y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if all these bloated javascripts and GDPR popups also included some bitcoin mining in the browser.

Rinzler89 2y ago

Some anti virus software used to do the same crypto mining gimmick.

consumer451 2y ago

While not a recommendation, I mentioned the Razer gaming laptop to a co-worker. He bought one, it started to de-laminate and bend itself into a potato chip. I had never seen anything like it. They would not take a return, he had to do a credit card charge back, and blamed me forever. Their laptops had a 50% failure rate at Linus Media Group, according to Luke during a WAN Show. Linus kept pushing them on his viewers though. This was years ago, and I will never understand how the company was not shamed into bankruptcy. Well, I guess I do understand. You can buy favorable media coverage and it scares the crap out of me.

kevingadd 2y ago
My sister had issues with her Razer laptop that ended up leading to needing new case screws so she could reassemble it after replacing a faulty battery and repairing a bad trackpad. They didn't have replacement screws, period. We had to buy them from a third party on Amazon. Kind of a clown company between that experience and every time I've bought one of their mice or keyboards (I learned my lesson after the third time...)
- consumer451 2y ago
  Yeah, now that you mention it, looking back, I assume it was likely a battery swelling, after one month of use. However, he and I were not close and he was already pissed at me. I didn't offer to take a look.
billy99k 2y ago
I had a Razer laptop. The metal on the back split open at one point and became really sharp. Due to this and its bulky-ness, I got an Asus Rog Zephyrus and never looked back. I always used to like Asus as a company when I built computers back in the 90s. Still great quality.
- xattt 2y ago
  > The metal on the back split open at one point and became really sharp. I am not sure why you are upset at this outcome, given the company name. /s
bena 2y ago
I guess that's what rainbow LEDs, sweet logos, and edgy branding will get you. And with streaming becoming popular, "functional" didn't really cut it anymore. Having a black MX Master/MX Keys combo doesn't really "pop" on screen. It's gotta have lights, match the aesthetic, etc. It working is almost immaterial.
- spondylosaurus 2y ago
  Logitech makes hardware with Gamer Lights that doesn't fall apart in six months, at least :P I've been using one of their keyboards for four or five years now. Razer, on the other hand... I was once gifted a secondhand Razer Blade laptop whose mainboard went dead after a year or two of use. They quoted me $500 for parts alone on a 3+ year old model.
whaleofatw2022 2y ago
They made a lot of money on their WOW mice back in the day. They were like the Beats Audio of mice for MMO folks. The sheer number of buttons helped. Logitech had the G60? Mmo mouse but it didn't have the 'edgy styling' of razer' products. That said, I still have two of the logi's (never did MMO, but that thing was awesome for CAD) one is over a decade old, more than I can say about any of the razer trash my friends bought
- saintfire 2y ago
  I had a Razer mouse for 10 years as well. I hated the software but the mouse wouldn't die. I also just had a Logitech mouse die in under 2 years. That said, I'm not advocating Razer, especially nowadays.
xen0 2y ago
> Their laptops had a 50% failure rate at Linus Media Group, according to Luke during a WAN Show. Linus kept pushing them on his viewers though. Do you have link to that particular show? It's surprising it was mentioned and that Linus was still 'supporting' it at the time.
- consumer451 2y ago
  I'm sorry, I do not, this all happened a while ago. I am pretty sure of my recollection of the sequence of events, but take it with a grain of salt, just one grain though. It was awkward as heck. I gained a lot of respect for Luke that day for keeping it real.
- banana_giraffe 2y ago
  I suspect this is the comment mentioned: https://youtu.be/_Sd608uzI0Q?t=710 https://youtu.be/_Sd608uzI0Q?t=710
  - consumer451 2y ago
    Exactly! I am really curious, how did you find this? Was it memory, or search?
    - banana_giraffe 2y ago
      Oh, my memory isn't nearly that good. I thought you were right, but I couldn't remember it more than that. I cobbled together the correct yt-dlp command to get all the subtitles and a little Python glue to search them.
      - consumer451 2y ago
        OMGosh. Thank you. I did actually try to find it, but I put in much less effort via Google searches, and obviously failed. Thanks for taking the time. Now I need to learn more about yt-dlp. Would you mind sharing the yt-dlp command which helped you get all the subtitles?

c2h5oh 2y ago

Hardware wasn't great either. Both me and my wife had issues with right mouse button switches failing and registering two clicks instead of one. This was 5 mice across 2 models (2 we bought, 3 we got as warranty replacements) in just a year. It's been over a decade and it's still a razer-free household.

jeffwask 2y ago
Agreed, I use Corsair or Logi peripherals now.
rasz 2y ago
Ironically Logitech might be partly to blame for this. Logitech being the biggest Omron customer of D2F switches basically forced them to move manufacturing from Japan to China the way Walmart forces suppliers to cut costs until they bleed. Thus the era of "10 million click" switches dying precisely around 1 year of use began. Nowadays Razer and other high end mouse vendors use immortal Optical switches.

dheera 2y ago

I wouldn't be surprised if all these bloated javascripts and GDPR popups also included some bitcoin mining in the browser.