> You’d expect at least some evidence that it can lift that much weight by this point "By this point". Well, we have testing program here (which to me looks pr

> You’d expect at least some evidence that it can lift that much weight by this point "By this point". Well, we have testing program here (which to me looks pretty successful so far), the capabilities of the system - demonstrated, that is - are increased with each flight. Load test - that is, bringing to orbit the full payload the Starship is designed for - has not happened yet, and, as far as I remember, Falcon also didn't have such a test for some record mass. I'm sure we'll see some reasonable payload flights at some point "soon". What's the problem here? > Especially considering that they should be long past that point according to their last updated roadmap. Ah :) maybe you're talking about the thing which SpaceX refers jokingly as "we transform impossible things to late". Yes, "Musk's time" is always very aggressive, and I even suspect to know why he's, as an engineer and a visioner, does that. And why Shotwell's estimates are more accurate - she excels at operations, after all. But I don't see a principal problem here either. Yes, the - rather aggressive, by aerospace standards - schedule slips to the right, while still producing results, years in a row. Big deal.