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That was because the devs were idiots who kept a "stash" of pirated games on a shared server. They would have been cooked in discovery if the lawsuit progressed

That was because the devs were idiots who kept a "stash" of pirated games on a shared server. They would have been cooked in discovery if the lawsuit progressed. A dev team that was actually clean and didn't pirate a single thing would have done much better.

Charon77 2y ago
Could you elaborate? I think I totally miss this subtleties
- darkwater 2y ago
  I think GP is implying that the main goal of the Yuzu emulator was explicitly pirating Nintendo games, unless other emulation projects where enabling piracy is just a side-effect, so to speak.
  - EMIRELADERO 2y ago
    No, that wasn't the main goal, but the developers had their own private NAS and discord server where they shared pirated switch ROMs. That would have killed them if (when) it came out in the lawsuit so they decided to end it right there. Notice how the other emulator, Ryujinx, isn't being targeted. There is no talk of a dev "stash" on its discord server.
    - philistine 2y ago
      The main thing people are forgetting is how Yuzu presented itself. They made a big thing out of support for 4k60 Tears of the Kingdom on PC before the game was released. The marketing people inside Nintendo must have been completely furious to have their supremely controlled media cycle completely sidetracked by them. They clearly sicked the legal department on them after that. Any time an emulator developer, or a fan game artist gets a cease and desist from Nintendo, it's always because marketing gets wind of their existence.
      - crtasm 2y ago
        >They made a big thing out of support for 4k60 Tears of the Kingdom on PC before the game was released. Citation please? Yuzu couldn't start the game at all without a patch, which I don't believe was being promoted by the Yuzu team. Of course the patch + game + yuzu got bundled together and offered as a download on many websites, perhaps this is what you're thinking of.
      - babypuncher 2y ago
        I don't have much empathy for the Yuzu team precisely because of this. Nintendo is notoriously litigious but has been careful not to go after all the completely fair and legal emulation projects out there. The Yuzu people were playing with fire in a big way. Pirating brand new games has nothing to do with preservation. Ultimately, Ryujinx's emphasis on accuracy makes it the better Switch emulator for actual preservation anyways, and I imagine that project is seeing a lot more support now that Yuzu is dead.
dangus 2y ago
IIRC Yuzu also monetized.
accrual 2y ago
Didn't they also accept payment via Patreon? That's also a big red flag for Nintendo since they are now profiting from the work.
- EMIRELADERO 2y ago
  It's not really a red flag as it doesn't change the legality.
crtasm 2y ago
Do you have a link to reporting on this stash of games? First I've heard of it.

Charon77 2y ago

Could you elaborate? I think I totally miss this subtleties

darkwater 2y ago
I think GP is implying that the main goal of the Yuzu emulator was explicitly pirating Nintendo games, unless other emulation projects where enabling piracy is just a side-effect, so to speak.
- EMIRELADERO 2y ago
  No, that wasn't the main goal, but the developers had their own private NAS and discord server where they shared pirated switch ROMs. That would have killed them if (when) it came out in the lawsuit so they decided to end it right there. Notice how the other emulator, Ryujinx, isn't being targeted. There is no talk of a dev "stash" on its discord server.
  - philistine 2y ago
    The main thing people are forgetting is how Yuzu presented itself. They made a big thing out of support for 4k60 Tears of the Kingdom on PC before the game was released. The marketing people inside Nintendo must have been completely furious to have their supremely controlled media cycle completely sidetracked by them. They clearly sicked the legal department on them after that. Any time an emulator developer, or a fan game artist gets a cease and desist from Nintendo, it's always because marketing gets wind of their existence.
    - crtasm 2y ago
      >They made a big thing out of support for 4k60 Tears of the Kingdom on PC before the game was released. Citation please? Yuzu couldn't start the game at all without a patch, which I don't believe was being promoted by the Yuzu team. Of course the patch + game + yuzu got bundled together and offered as a download on many websites, perhaps this is what you're thinking of.
    - babypuncher 2y ago
      I don't have much empathy for the Yuzu team precisely because of this. Nintendo is notoriously litigious but has been careful not to go after all the completely fair and legal emulation projects out there. The Yuzu people were playing with fire in a big way. Pirating brand new games has nothing to do with preservation. Ultimately, Ryujinx's emphasis on accuracy makes it the better Switch emulator for actual preservation anyways, and I imagine that project is seeing a lot more support now that Yuzu is dead.

dangus 2y ago

IIRC Yuzu also monetized.

accrual 2y ago

Didn't they also accept payment via Patreon? That's also a big red flag for Nintendo since they are now profiting from the work.

EMIRELADERO 2y ago
It's not really a red flag as it doesn't change the legality.

crtasm 2y ago

Do you have a link to reporting on this stash of games? First I've heard of it.