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Do U.S. people really benefit from this kind of restriction from the Government? Seems like they are pawing their way into our property to empower themselves wi

Do U.S. people really benefit from this kind of restriction from the Government? Seems like they are pawing their way into our property to empower themselves with all kinds of precedents.

consumer451 3y ago
Like seat belts?
- eimrine 3y ago
  Seat belts is user's responsibility, so not like that. Like requirement to have a display, requirement to be able of stopping if the Government wants, anything like the covid restrictions. The government in 60s was not able to insist on any restrictions for drivers which are working willy-nilly.
lm28469 3y ago
I don't get the downvotes, it's a valid question imho. For example in France in 2012 they made it mandatory for every car to have 2 alcohol tests (the dumb ones, you blow in it changes color if you're above a certain threshold). A good idea right ? it's pretty cheap too no ? It turned out that the lobbyists who pushed for it were also invested in the company manufacturing 90% the alcohol tests for the french market. https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2012/06/27/01016-20120627ARTFIG00496-soupcons-de-conflits-d-interets-sur-le-marche-des-ethylotests.php https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2012/06/27/01016-20...
- acdha 3y ago
  It’s the weird conspiratorial tone (see their other comments). There’s a century of precedent for safety equipment and from a privacy perspective this is a non-issue – I’d be far more concerned with data from things like OnStar which actually connect to a network or LPRs. There could be a good conversation about privacy and costs but I doubt it can start from that point. I would also note that you can find the same general comments, almost word for word except the stuff about COVID restrictions, said about antilock brakes, seatbelts, daytime running lights, airbags, etc. Some people have an instinctive reaction to oppose any new requirement.
- a_bonobo 3y ago
  That law does not exist since 2020 as it was found not to help with drink driving accidents. https://www.thelocal.fr/20200108/france-to-finally-scrap-law-obliging-drivers-to-keep-breathalysers-in-cars https://www.thelocal.fr/20200108/france-to-finally-scrap-law...
  - lm28469 3y ago
    Yes, good thing, at 1 to 2 euros a pop, times 2 tests per car, times 38m cars in France that was a lot of money for nothing

Do U.S. people really benefit from this kind of restriction from the Government? Seems like they are pawing their way into our property to empower themselves with all kinds of precedents.

consumer451 3y ago

Like seat belts?

eimrine 3y ago
Seat belts is user's responsibility, so not like that. Like requirement to have a display, requirement to be able of stopping if the Government wants, anything like the covid restrictions. The government in 60s was not able to insist on any restrictions for drivers which are working willy-nilly.

lm28469 3y ago

I don't get the downvotes, it's a valid question imho. For example in France in 2012 they made it mandatory for every car to have 2 alcohol tests (the dumb ones, you blow in it changes color if you're above a certain threshold). A good idea right ? it's pretty cheap too no ? It turned out that the lobbyists who pushed for it were also invested in the company manufacturing 90% the alcohol tests for the french market. https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2012/06/27/01016-20120627ARTFIG00496-soupcons-de-conflits-d-interets-sur-le-marche-des-ethylotests.php https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2012/06/27/01016-20...

acdha 3y ago
It’s the weird conspiratorial tone (see their other comments). There’s a century of precedent for safety equipment and from a privacy perspective this is a non-issue – I’d be far more concerned with data from things like OnStar which actually connect to a network or LPRs. There could be a good conversation about privacy and costs but I doubt it can start from that point. I would also note that you can find the same general comments, almost word for word except the stuff about COVID restrictions, said about antilock brakes, seatbelts, daytime running lights, airbags, etc. Some people have an instinctive reaction to oppose any new requirement.
a_bonobo 3y ago
That law does not exist since 2020 as it was found not to help with drink driving accidents. https://www.thelocal.fr/20200108/france-to-finally-scrap-law-obliging-drivers-to-keep-breathalysers-in-cars https://www.thelocal.fr/20200108/france-to-finally-scrap-law...
- lm28469 3y ago
  Yes, good thing, at 1 to 2 euros a pop, times 2 tests per car, times 38m cars in France that was a lot of money for nothing