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I’m guessing the EU is just holding it wrong.
by hehdhdjehehegwv 2y ago
I’m guessing the EU is just holding it wrong.
- thebruce87m 2y ago[flagged]
- frankacter 2y agoWhile not word for word, it echoes the sentiment of the "official" response from Apple. "If you ever experience this on your iPhone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band"
- thebruce87m 2y agoThere is a difference between “here’s how to avoid the problem” and “the problem is caused by you”.
- hehdhdjehehegwv 2y agoThey sent out bumpers because it was a design flaw.
- thebruce87m 2y agoI know they did, that’s not my point. My point is that the words “you are holding it wrong” were never said. They told people how to avoid the problem. “Here’s a workaround” doesn’t assign blame to the user. “You are holding it wrong” does. The sentiment is different.
- huhtenberg 2y agoOh, the sentiment was there alright. You must've forgotten how Jobs was in general and his massive annoyance when he explained this "workaround" in particular. Of course, it was users' fault. They have always been simpletons. "You are holding it wrong" is spot on. It captures extremely accurately the very essence of Jobs' attitude towards the users.
- dwaite 2y agoThe words they said did not and could not capture your perception of the former Apple CEO. They are different things.
- huhtenberg 2y ago"They" is Jobs. "All phones have sensitive areas," Jobs wrote. "Just avoid holding it in this way." https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2010/06/jobs-on-iphone-4-antenna-avoid-holding-it-in-this-way https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2010/06/jobs-on-iphone-4-ant...
- thebruce87m 2y agoA factual quote and some advice. There is no context as to whether they knew the full extent of the issue or not. Anyone attributing malice to this assumes they do. “All software has bugs”, “avoid using this button” would be a perfectly reasonable thing to say if you were still analysing a problem and the user had an alternative way of using a feature. They eventually did acknowledge a problem and issue bumpers, just as a software issue would be acknowledged and a patch issued.
- josefx 2y agoJobs exact words where: "All phones have sensitive areas, just avoid holding it in this way." Which is arguably worse, since all of Apples official statements on that case contained that bit of intentional gaslighting at the beginning. The iPhone 4 did not just have "sensitive areas", it completely exposed the antenna, causing it to short circuit from normal use.
- thebruce87m 2y agoI know the history of it, I followed it closely at the time. That’s why I pointed out that the quote was wrong ( and got downvoted ). I expect the same will happen to you since you posted the correct quote.
- figassis 2y agoI’m sure you understand why you were downvoted and that it has nothing to do with what facts you stated.
- thebruce87m 2y ago[flagged]
- rezonant 2y agoComplaining about downvoting is bad form. If you are temporarily downvoted on a post and react by editing it to complain, that's a surefire way for that post to remain negative on its point balance.
- thebruce87m 2y agoI’m not scared by downvotes. I called out bad form as I interpreted it, just as you are you are doing now. Posting facts in HN should not warrant downvotes. Neither should reasonable discussions.