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Seriously? Not really hard to expect otherwise? I guess it's ok then for Google to drop FB from its search results, after all it's one of its biggest threats, r

Seriously? Not really hard to expect otherwise? I guess it's ok then for Google to drop FB from its search results, after all it's one of its biggest threats, right?

duaneb 14y ago
It's not the same at all - an equivalence would be if facebook didn't support Chrome at all and made people choose another browser.
- zobzu 14y ago
  Ahah yeah. That's true. All in all this is bad for the open web (both ways). At least, there's no Facebook browser yet. But hey, it might happen as well. They both want control over the net. Complete control. Client, servers, data.
  - Arelius 14y ago
    Is it? It seems to me that suggesting browsers that are not the most common, actually does much more for the open web than the alternative.
    - zobzu 14y ago
      All in all yes. Sure they put Opera in there but those are actually very common and well known browsers. You know... IE, Firefox. (and Opera is still quite well known). That being said it's their little war for total web control (again client+server+data) which is really bad, and what I meant to express in the comment.
      - Arelius 14y ago
        They don't control IE, Firefox, or Opera. This seems really like they are fighting against Google's war for total web control. Which I'll reiterate, is a good thing.
  - deno 14y ago
    > At least, there's no Facebook browser yet. But hey, it might happen as well. They should buy Opera and open source it :) No idea if that makes any sense for Facebook from the business point of view, but it’d be really cool. And they definitely can afford it. EDIT: Now that I think about it, Facebook getting their own browser makes a lot of sense. They have a real chance of pulling off the mythical Social Browser. Opera already has an extensive email client which they could integrate with Facebook Messaging, they have widget system which would also fit nicely with Facebook apps. Opera was always about integrated experience, full functionality out of the box, and Facebook could take it to the next level.
    - vasco 14y ago
      If people talk about the Chrome botnet I can only imagine what would be said of a facebook browser.
    - balakk 14y ago
      HELL no. Please keep Opera private, play your open source wars with other browsers.
    - geon 14y ago
      > They should buy Opera and open source it :) No need to buy anything. Webkit is free.
      - daeken 14y ago
        Err, Opera isn't Webkit based at all. It runs on their own custom, proprietary layout engine.
        SquareWheel 14y ago
        I think geon knows this, but is saying that Facebook could just build their own Webkit browser for free rather than having to buy a layout engine.
    - dazbradbury 14y ago
      Was this the start of the current rumour?! http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/25/facebook-could-be-looking-to-buy-opera/ http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/25/facebook-could-be-looking...
  - myko 14y ago
    > They both want control over the net. Complete control. Client, servers, data. This is ridiculous. I don't trust Facebook/Google with all of my private data, but this claim is outrageous. Care to back this assertion up?
nknight 14y ago
I'd be fine with that. In fact, it'd probably be an objective improvement with regard to my search results. Not all of us believe search engines have some magical obligation to be complete or impartial. If you don't like the results you get from one, try another.
- leot 14y ago
  ... because in the long-run, everything will work better if everyone just behaves selfishly ... ?
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  - nknight 14y ago
    I decline to engage in a debate with someone who has decided he can divine my worldview from a single comment about privately-owned search engines. Hint: I'm a socialist.
- thwest 14y ago
  Agreed. The most frustrations I've had with google lately is when it assumes I care about some cluster of social chatter that vaguely intersects with my search terms.

Seriously? Not really hard to expect otherwise? I guess it's ok then for Google to drop FB from its search results, after all it's one of its biggest threats, right?

duaneb 14y ago

It's not the same at all - an equivalence would be if facebook didn't support Chrome at all and made people choose another browser.

zobzu 14y ago
Ahah yeah. That's true. All in all this is bad for the open web (both ways). At least, there's no Facebook browser yet. But hey, it might happen as well. They both want control over the net. Complete control. Client, servers, data.
- Arelius 14y ago
  Is it? It seems to me that suggesting browsers that are not the most common, actually does much more for the open web than the alternative.
  - zobzu 14y ago
    All in all yes. Sure they put Opera in there but those are actually very common and well known browsers. You know... IE, Firefox. (and Opera is still quite well known). That being said it's their little war for total web control (again client+server+data) which is really bad, and what I meant to express in the comment.
    - Arelius 14y ago
      They don't control IE, Firefox, or Opera. This seems really like they are fighting against Google's war for total web control. Which I'll reiterate, is a good thing.
- deno 14y ago
  > At least, there's no Facebook browser yet. But hey, it might happen as well. They should buy Opera and open source it :) No idea if that makes any sense for Facebook from the business point of view, but it’d be really cool. And they definitely can afford it. EDIT: Now that I think about it, Facebook getting their own browser makes a lot of sense. They have a real chance of pulling off the mythical Social Browser. Opera already has an extensive email client which they could integrate with Facebook Messaging, they have widget system which would also fit nicely with Facebook apps. Opera was always about integrated experience, full functionality out of the box, and Facebook could take it to the next level.
  - vasco 14y ago
    If people talk about the Chrome botnet I can only imagine what would be said of a facebook browser.
  - balakk 14y ago
    HELL no. Please keep Opera private, play your open source wars with other browsers.
  - geon 14y ago
    > They should buy Opera and open source it :) No need to buy anything. Webkit is free.
    - daeken 14y ago
      Err, Opera isn't Webkit based at all. It runs on their own custom, proprietary layout engine.
      - SquareWheel 14y ago
        I think geon knows this, but is saying that Facebook could just build their own Webkit browser for free rather than having to buy a layout engine.
  - dazbradbury 14y ago
    Was this the start of the current rumour?! http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/25/facebook-could-be-looking-to-buy-opera/ http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/25/facebook-could-be-looking...
- myko 14y ago
  > They both want control over the net. Complete control. Client, servers, data. This is ridiculous. I don't trust Facebook/Google with all of my private data, but this claim is outrageous. Care to back this assertion up?

nknight 14y ago

I'd be fine with that. In fact, it'd probably be an objective improvement with regard to my search results. Not all of us believe search engines have some magical obligation to be complete or impartial. If you don't like the results you get from one, try another.

leot 14y ago
... because in the long-run, everything will work better if everyone just behaves selfishly ... ?
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- nknight 14y ago
  I decline to engage in a debate with someone who has decided he can divine my worldview from a single comment about privately-owned search engines. Hint: I'm a socialist.
thwest 14y ago
Agreed. The most frustrations I've had with google lately is when it assumes I care about some cluster of social chatter that vaguely intersects with my search terms.