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is this a rush to market of a half baked product or a product that doesn't need to exist except to show investors "something"? the fact it gets answers wrong a
by shombaboor 2y ago
is this a rush to market of a half baked product or a product that doesn't need to exist except to show investors "something"? the fact it gets answers wrong and makes you double check its work sorta defeats the purpose.
- jsheard 2y agoIt's a product class that's racing against the clock of Google and Apple baking basically the same functionality into their operating systems and making these dedicated widgets (even more) pointless. I'm not optimistic that Google and Apples take will be significantly more useful than these half-baked attempts, but at least they won't require you to pay for and then juggle an extra device.
- mikequinlan 2y agoMaybe they are hoping to get purchased by one of the big players (Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple, …) the way that Apple bought Siri.
- jsheard 2y agoMaybe that is their hope but Siri actually developed things that Apple wanted, their speech recognition was licensed from Nuance but IIRC the natural language parsing and speech synthesis was done in-house. OTOH Rabbit and Humane seem to mostly just be haphazardly gluing third party APIs together to assemble a product that barely works. What exactly would they bring to the table in an acquisition?
- mikequinlan 2y agoRabbit is promising their Large Action Model (LAM) software, their "rotational eye" and associated software, and maybe an AI trained on actual user conversations.
- dagmx 2y agoWhat use case does the rotational eye give it?
- threeseed 2y agoSure. But they have promised a lot and delivered very little. And from people who have used the Rabbit the LAM concept as they have done it is unusable e.g. it was ordering from DoorDash to the wrong address / incorrect tip and they had no way to change it. User experience is just as important as the technology.
- shombaboor 2y agothat makes sense. maybe they think they can get decent enough to be acquired and folded in? I just don't know anyone who wants one.
- darepublic 2y agoReminds me of human made software racing against the clock of AI now
- bhhaskin 2y agoGoogle and Apple already have the same if not better functionality via Google assistant and Siri. The AI pin thingy is totally just a gimmick product to get funding. Just like all the other "wearables" companies out there. And teenage engineering just likes weird quirky products.
- perryizgr8 2y agoNo, Google assistant and Siri are barely usable beyond setting a timer or adding a reminder. Even that does not work 100% of the time. They absolutely cannot come close to a proper LLM at all.
- wferrell 2y agoApple does >1B queries per week on siri. Likely greater than 4B assuming minimal growth since 2016. I would bet >10B. I'm not saying it is equivalent to an LLM. It is getting real, serious usage. I have no dog in the fight.
- threeseed 2y agoGoogle I/O is 2 weeks away. WWDC is 6 weeks away. Both are expected to release major updates to their assistant including on-device LLM/LAM.
- bhhaskin 2y agoThey can do everything (and more) than what was in the video. Sure it they can't compose a email, but at least they will give you accurate information.
- imiric 2y agoThe current iteration of wearable tech (beyond smartwatches) might be half-baked and riding on the AI wave, but wearable computing as a field is promising. The technology has only recently reached a point where it could rival traditional mobile computing. Dismissing the entire field based on these early attempts would be a mistake. If anything, current smartphone leaders would be foolish to not jump at the opportunity to introduce standalone devices themselves. They eventually likely will, and will market their versions as the real innovations.
- wvenable 2y agoThese devices have no reason to exist. This entire device could be an app on a phone and be 500% more useful and less expensive. I understand this particular product is [edit] designed by Teenage Engineering and it's kinda what they do. But that makes it a niche product. But there is no reason for a serious product to have a screen, a camera, a speaker, and a network connection and not be a smartphone.
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- dagmx 2y agoThis product isn’t from Teenage Engineering. They were contracted to design it.
- yowzadave 2y agoWhy would Google and Apple even want something like this built into the core experience of using their phones? Like MKBHD has shown, they are slow, inaccurate, and of limited utility—the actual “useful” features are all speculative at the moment. So, thank you, Apple and Google, for not rushing something underbaked into your phones!
- mmusc 2y agoI think Dave2D zeros in on the why in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMqhE9r5JuI&ab_channel=Dave2D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMqhE9r5JuI&ab_channel=Dave2... These devices should be apps on your phone. Google and Apple will won't open their devices enough for these assistants to useful cause they want to roll their own. So their only hope is to create a stand alone device.. But yeah they're dead in the water.
- adipid 2y agoAnother point from Dave2D: they rush to launch the devices now because they might become obsolete after Google's I/O and Apple's WWDC when/if they introduce on-device AI-assistants.