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You make claims of massive improvements but as an end user I have not experienced such. With the amount of fake and cherrypicked demos in the AI space I dont be

You make claims of massive improvements but as an end user I have not experienced such. With the amount of fake and cherrypicked demos in the AI space I dont believe anything until I experience it myself. >Ironically, Waymo's self-driving taxis were launched in several cities in 2023. Does this count? No because usage is limited to a tiny fraction of drive-able space. More cherrypicking.

imiric 2y ago
Just because you haven't used text generation with practically unlimited context windows, insight extraction from personal data, massively improved text-to-image, image-to-image and video generation tools, and ridden in an autonomous vehicle, doesn't mean that the field has stagnated. You're purposefully ignoring progress, and gating it behind some arbitrary ideals. That doesn't make your claims true.
- sussmannbaka 2y ago
  No. The progress is not being ignored. Normal people just have a hard time getting excited for something that is not useful yet. What you are doing here is the equivalent of popular science articles about exciting new battery tech - as long as it doesn’t improve my battery life, I don’t care. I will care once it hits the shelves and is useful to me, I do not care about your list of acronyms.
  - imiric 2y ago
    I was arguing against the claim that progress has flatlined, and when I gave concrete examples of recent developments that millions of people are using today, you've now shifted the goalpost to "normal" people being excited about it. But sure, please tell me more about how AI is a fad.
    - sussmannbaka 2y ago
      You are seeing enemies where there are none. I am merely commenting on AI evangelists insisting I have to be psyched about every paper and poc long before it ever turns into a useable product that impacts my life. I don’t care about the internals of your field, nobody does. Achieve results and I will gladly use them.

imiric 2y ago

Just because you haven't used text generation with practically unlimited context windows, insight extraction from personal data, massively improved text-to-image, image-to-image and video generation tools, and ridden in an autonomous vehicle, doesn't mean that the field has stagnated. You're purposefully ignoring progress, and gating it behind some arbitrary ideals. That doesn't make your claims true.

sussmannbaka 2y ago
No. The progress is not being ignored. Normal people just have a hard time getting excited for something that is not useful yet. What you are doing here is the equivalent of popular science articles about exciting new battery tech - as long as it doesn’t improve my battery life, I don’t care. I will care once it hits the shelves and is useful to me, I do not care about your list of acronyms.
- imiric 2y ago
  I was arguing against the claim that progress has flatlined, and when I gave concrete examples of recent developments that millions of people are using today, you've now shifted the goalpost to "normal" people being excited about it. But sure, please tell me more about how AI is a fad.
  - sussmannbaka 2y ago
    You are seeing enemies where there are none. I am merely commenting on AI evangelists insisting I have to be psyched about every paper and poc long before it ever turns into a useable product that impacts my life. I don’t care about the internals of your field, nobody does. Achieve results and I will gladly use them.