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Can you name any major company where an L5 equivalent level is not terminal? Many people stay ICT4 at Apple for a long time. Performing well at a level is not
by elevatedastalt 2y ago
Can you name any major company where an L5 equivalent level is not terminal? Many people stay ICT4 at Apple for a long time.
Performing well at a level is not directly related to promotion. You are expected to perform well as ICT4 or L5 (i.e. get good ratings), but promotion is an orthogonal process.
- pavel_lishin 2y agoApple is another outlier. Is Facebook or Amazon going to be the next example? My previous employer had a pretty explicit "up or out" policy, until the CTO - who was the main driver behind it - left. Luckily, this was before I reached my current, happy level. I'm not sure what the L-equivalent is, but I'm a senior software engineer.
- elevatedastalt 2y agoI mean, if you feel 4 of the biggest Tech employers are not representative of at least some trends about the industry, then I don't think we can have a meaningful discussion. I am willing to accept that many employers might still be following the policy you mention. Would you be willing to accept that many employers don't?
- pavel_lishin 2y agoSure. I just think that talking about Google, Apple, etc. is like talking about how your family does things, and then bringing up that the British royal family does things differently.
- flappyeagle 2y agoYou’re talking about huge companies that each employ many hundreds of thousands of people. Not an insular handful of elite monarchs
- pavel_lishin 2y agoNo analogy is perfect.