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> Really? Other social media platforms are exfiltrating US data to China after claiming it doesn’t happen under oath? This wasn't what your parent comment clai

> Really? Other social media platforms are exfiltrating US data to China after claiming it doesn’t happen under oath? This wasn't what your parent comment claimed - you claimed that the CCP was propagandizing people through the Tiktok platform. The "exfiltrating us data to china" is still a disputed claim as far as I'm aware, and even if true still doesn't support your original extraordinary claim. > What sort of evidence could exist when it is a black box? Bytedance / TikTok are not transparent about any of it, and given that they are willing to lie under oath, why should anything they say be trusted at all? All we have is what people have studied in terms of the prevalence of certain messages and hashtags, and it is very clear from various evaluations of this, that TikTok is very skewed. And it seems to be skewed in the very ways that would create political chaos. I guess then you can speculate and make wild claim you want about it then - why stop there? > I wonder why TikTok’s parent company said they prefer to shut it down rather than sell it. It only makes it more clear that it is mainly a tool of the CCP. I am not sure what “blatant propaganda” you’re referring to, but creating any kind of equivalence between the US and the CCP is ridiculous. Nothing you've said makes anything "clear," and again, is pure speculation and regurgitating of actual propaganda on this topic. Now that I understand you're completely unserious, I can move on with my day. Have a good one

blackeyeblitzar 3y ago
> This wasn't what your parent comment claimed I was responding to your comment, not my own parent comment. You used the word “privacy”. TikTok is clearly worse on privacy, and the link I shared is an example of that. > I guess then you can speculate and make wild claim you want about it then - why stop there? If your argument is nothing should be done because a company controlled by an adversarial government is hard to examine, then that’s not very convincing. Like I said, with what evidence is possible to collect, it shows that TikTok is highly skewed in an artificial and likely malicious way. > Now that I understand you're completely unserious, I can move on with my day From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: * Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.*
- JohnMakin 3y ago
  I’m not making any argument. I’m purely responding to what you said, which is blatant misinformation not backed by any evidence. > Like I said, with what evidence is possible to collect, it shows that TikTok is highly skewed in an artificial and likely malicious way. Can you show such evidence? I’m genuinely curious. Such evidence would make top headlines, so I’m a little skeptical, but maybe you know something more than I do other than “China is bad.”

blackeyeblitzar 3y ago

> This wasn't what your parent comment claimed I was responding to your comment, not my own parent comment. You used the word “privacy”. TikTok is clearly worse on privacy, and the link I shared is an example of that. > I guess then you can speculate and make wild claim you want about it then - why stop there? If your argument is nothing should be done because a company controlled by an adversarial government is hard to examine, then that’s not very convincing. Like I said, with what evidence is possible to collect, it shows that TikTok is highly skewed in an artificial and likely malicious way. > Now that I understand you're completely unserious, I can move on with my day From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: * Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.*

JohnMakin 3y ago
I’m not making any argument. I’m purely responding to what you said, which is blatant misinformation not backed by any evidence. > Like I said, with what evidence is possible to collect, it shows that TikTok is highly skewed in an artificial and likely malicious way. Can you show such evidence? I’m genuinely curious. Such evidence would make top headlines, so I’m a little skeptical, but maybe you know something more than I do other than “China is bad.”