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"I've never heard people who are now adults who had "TV time" restrictions express a lot of FOMO or regret about it." I agree. It's surprising how few people m

"I've never heard people who are now adults who had "TV time" restrictions express a lot of FOMO or regret about it." I agree. It's surprising how few people make rules for thier kids to help direct them in life these days. Of course independent and unsupervised time is important for maturity too. But it's surprising how any sort of discipline seems to be viewed as a negative and many parents give up at the slightest resistance. To be clear, I don't mean discipline as punishment. I mean it more like order and routine. Stuff like shining your shoes, going to church with your family, helping someone old or disabled in the store, etc. I guess being responsible and productive members of society in a more general sense. I know kids never really liked doing chores, but it seems like in the past we understood we were part of a household and we should do our share. Now it seems like many kids just whine and the parents let them out it. I'm not sure if it's just entitled kids, lazy parents, or something else.

bigfudge 3y ago
Part of it is that we’ve destroyed many of the sociable spaces in which this sort of acculturation can take place and be supported.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
> It's surprising how few people make rules for thier kids to help direct them in life these days. Do they make rules for themselves? If not, I would not expect it for the kids. If the parents are scrolling, then they are not going to have much of a leg to stand on.
- nickthegreek 3y ago
  Ridiculous. Swap out scrolling for beer or staying up past 10 and see how silly this sounds.
  - giantg2 3y ago
    I agree that it doesn't have to be 1-to-1. But there are many parents that don't seem to have discipline for themselves in many ways. Using your beer example, getting drunk, or drunk driving, or drinking instead of helping with homework or something. Having a couple beers is fine if it's done responsibly, and one can still be a good role model.
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    It is about being a good role model. There is nothing wrong with different people having different standards. Even a child understands that they cannot drive, but a taller adult can. Or myriad other things. But you cannot preach discipline without exhibiting it yourself and still maintain credibility. For example, you can scroll on your phone sometimes, but if you are doing it hour after hour at every empty moment, but expect your child to watch you and not want to constantly indulge themselves also, you are going to be disappointed. Especially when everyone around them will be scrolling anyway. Parents are basically the only ones who kids might trust more than their eyes (thinking that scrolling all the time is OK because everyone does it), but it has to be a family effort.
- giantg2 3y ago
  "Do they make rules for themselves?" It seems not.

bigfudge 3y ago

Part of it is that we’ve destroyed many of the sociable spaces in which this sort of acculturation can take place and be supported.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

> It's surprising how few people make rules for thier kids to help direct them in life these days. Do they make rules for themselves? If not, I would not expect it for the kids. If the parents are scrolling, then they are not going to have much of a leg to stand on.

nickthegreek 3y ago
Ridiculous. Swap out scrolling for beer or staying up past 10 and see how silly this sounds.
- giantg2 3y ago
  I agree that it doesn't have to be 1-to-1. But there are many parents that don't seem to have discipline for themselves in many ways. Using your beer example, getting drunk, or drunk driving, or drinking instead of helping with homework or something. Having a couple beers is fine if it's done responsibly, and one can still be a good role model.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  It is about being a good role model. There is nothing wrong with different people having different standards. Even a child understands that they cannot drive, but a taller adult can. Or myriad other things. But you cannot preach discipline without exhibiting it yourself and still maintain credibility. For example, you can scroll on your phone sometimes, but if you are doing it hour after hour at every empty moment, but expect your child to watch you and not want to constantly indulge themselves also, you are going to be disappointed. Especially when everyone around them will be scrolling anyway. Parents are basically the only ones who kids might trust more than their eyes (thinking that scrolling all the time is OK because everyone does it), but it has to be a family effort.
giantg2 3y ago
"Do they make rules for themselves?" It seems not.