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it's not a vote, it's the possibility for a candidate to participate in the election. imo we have the same process in france (slightly more complexe) this is ju

by h1fra 2y ago

it's not a vote, it's the possibility for a candidate to participate in the election. imo we have the same process in france (slightly more complexe) this is just a process to pre-eliminate jokes and unserious people then you still need a regular campaign

themaninthedark 2y ago
I understand that it is not a vote but it is basically signing an online petition. Here is the expected behavior: The prospective candidate asks someone to support them and sends them the link. The supporter is supposed to scroll the list, find the candidate and click to support them. This is failing because the first element that the supporter sees is the register link. I do think that the redesigned page looks better but in my view endorsing someone or signing a petition is not a task that someone should take lightly.
- kgermino 2y ago
  That's fair, but why would they see (what they think is) "log in to endorse someone" as the part of the process which requires deliberative thought? Yes they should consider who and whether to endorse, they should probably check to make sure they're doing the endorsement correctly, but if you're looking for the Log In button to do the endorsement and you see what looks like a normal EULA above a prominent Log In button of course some percentage of people are going to skim over that.
- vidarh 2y ago
  You shouldn't take it lightly, but you may already have decided you want to when you arrive at the page, and then a bunch of text will at least for some seem like it is an annoying obstacle to doing what you've already thought through.
- pimlottc 2y ago
  To me, endorsing someone to run is a much much lower threshold than actually voting for them. Anyone should have the ability to run for office in a democracy, doesn’t mean I want them to win.
  - eastbound 2y ago
    In France at least, there is a really high pressure on all people in power to not endorse candidates of opposing parties. The excuse is always “But he poses a threat to democracy”, but that is the very proof that the person is not a comedian, and thus, by your standards, should be allowed to run. And heck, be elected, because nothing is a threat to democracy more than preventing people from voting the option they want (ask UK who ran 4 votes before admitting that the citizen wanted to leave; heck, ask France, who kept voting for their king, so the democratic forces killed hundreds of thousands of citizen (Lyon’s population was slashed by 2), until the parliament has had enough that the French kept voting for the king instead of voting for the guardians of the revolution and finally guillotined the king - yes, most democracies were born by killing the characters that the people wanted to elect).

by h1fra 2y ago

themaninthedark 2y ago

I understand that it is not a vote but it is basically signing an online petition. Here is the expected behavior: The prospective candidate asks someone to support them and sends them the link. The supporter is supposed to scroll the list, find the candidate and click to support them. This is failing because the first element that the supporter sees is the register link. I do think that the redesigned page looks better but in my view endorsing someone or signing a petition is not a task that someone should take lightly.

kgermino 2y ago
That's fair, but why would they see (what they think is) "log in to endorse someone" as the part of the process which requires deliberative thought? Yes they should consider who and whether to endorse, they should probably check to make sure they're doing the endorsement correctly, but if you're looking for the Log In button to do the endorsement and you see what looks like a normal EULA above a prominent Log In button of course some percentage of people are going to skim over that.
vidarh 2y ago
You shouldn't take it lightly, but you may already have decided you want to when you arrive at the page, and then a bunch of text will at least for some seem like it is an annoying obstacle to doing what you've already thought through.
pimlottc 2y ago
To me, endorsing someone to run is a much much lower threshold than actually voting for them. Anyone should have the ability to run for office in a democracy, doesn’t mean I want them to win.
- eastbound 2y ago
  In France at least, there is a really high pressure on all people in power to not endorse candidates of opposing parties. The excuse is always “But he poses a threat to democracy”, but that is the very proof that the person is not a comedian, and thus, by your standards, should be allowed to run. And heck, be elected, because nothing is a threat to democracy more than preventing people from voting the option they want (ask UK who ran 4 votes before admitting that the citizen wanted to leave; heck, ask France, who kept voting for their king, so the democratic forces killed hundreds of thousands of citizen (Lyon’s population was slashed by 2), until the parliament has had enough that the French kept voting for the king instead of voting for the guardians of the revolution and finally guillotined the king - yes, most democracies were born by killing the characters that the people wanted to elect).