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NO one wants to admit that the tyranny of leadership is probably a good thing for a projects success. DDH, Linus, Poettering, Im sure someone is offended by he

NO one wants to admit that the tyranny of leadership is probably a good thing for a projects success. DDH, Linus, Poettering, Im sure someone is offended by hearing one of these names, but look at the status and reputation of their projects. Now go look at Wayland, or Rust who lack these guiding voices... Note that if you did in deep on these projects your likely going to need some popcorn to go with the soap opera levels of drama. Nix is going to be interesting to watch in the coming months.

ParetoOptimal 3y ago
> NO one wants to admit that the tyranny of leadership is probably a good thing for a projects success. I don't disagree, but it needs to be communicated upfront and transparent without some guise of it being anything else so that potential contributors can decide if it's right for them from the outset.
- busterarm 3y ago
  The very people decrying the lack of leadership transparency on the moderation team do their work behind closed doors, don't operate with transparency or consistency and disallow all meta discussion of their moderation work. Oh and ban anyone that openly disagrees with their values.
  - ParetoOptimal 3y ago
    > The very people decrying the lack of leadership transparency on the moderation team do their work behind closed doors, don't operate with transparency or consistency and disallow all meta discussion of their moderation work. This just isn't true. See "Transparency about jonringers suspension"[0] and also notice it's a suspension and not a ban. Note that Jon's post to reddit titled it a "ban". Which side seems to be trying to stir things up here? Also, before that discourse post there has always been a public moderation log here: https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/c0f7744701cba40f05fa7ca62f0d143d7231332a https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/c0f7744701cba40f0... 0: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/why-was-jon-ringer-banned-from-github/44114/23 https://discourse.nixos.org/t/why-was-jon-ringer-banned-from...
duxup 3y ago
>NO one wants to admit that the tyranny of leadership is probably a good thing for a projects success. I see that expressed all the time ...

ParetoOptimal 3y ago

> NO one wants to admit that the tyranny of leadership is probably a good thing for a projects success. I don't disagree, but it needs to be communicated upfront and transparent without some guise of it being anything else so that potential contributors can decide if it's right for them from the outset.

busterarm 3y ago
The very people decrying the lack of leadership transparency on the moderation team do their work behind closed doors, don't operate with transparency or consistency and disallow all meta discussion of their moderation work. Oh and ban anyone that openly disagrees with their values.
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago
  > The very people decrying the lack of leadership transparency on the moderation team do their work behind closed doors, don't operate with transparency or consistency and disallow all meta discussion of their moderation work. This just isn't true. See "Transparency about jonringers suspension"[0] and also notice it's a suspension and not a ban. Note that Jon's post to reddit titled it a "ban". Which side seems to be trying to stir things up here? Also, before that discourse post there has always been a public moderation log here: https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/c0f7744701cba40f05fa7ca62f0d143d7231332a https://github.com/NixOS/moderation/commit/c0f7744701cba40f0... 0: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/why-was-jon-ringer-banned-from-github/44114/23 https://discourse.nixos.org/t/why-was-jon-ringer-banned-from...

duxup 3y ago

>NO one wants to admit that the tyranny of leadership is probably a good thing for a projects success. I see that expressed all the time ...