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> Generative AI is an instantaneous push-button solution. It generates a legal brief or construction plan from scratch. Interacting with software is like chatti

> Generative AI is an instantaneous push-button solution. It generates a legal brief or construction plan from scratch. Interacting with software is like chatting to a friend. You don’t have to re-learn your whole process – you simply remove tedious tasks from your to-do list. We’re getting sued for the homes we built that have unreachable floors and outdoor facing windows placed inscrutably on load bearing interior walls but I feel really good about our legal defense

htrp 3y ago
> We’re getting sued for the homes we built that have unreachable floors and outdoor facing windows placed inscrutably on load bearing interior walls but I feel really good about our legal defense This seems oddly specific, has this already happened in real life?
- langsoul-com 3y ago
  This is happening a lot in Australia, very dodgy builders resulting in illegal (from the building code) houses. Some are unsafe, others are failing apart way quicker due to the shortcuts taken.
- nicklecompte 3y ago
  Not in the sense of an architect actually building a generative AI blueprint. But transformer ANNs are simply incapable of designing physically plausible construction plans. Theoretically, not being able to solve graph connectivity seems like a big issue. Empirically, not being able to count is a fatal flaw.
  - drbig 3y ago
    > Theoretically, not being able to solve graph connectivity seems like a big issue. Empirically, not being able to count is a fatal flaw. Thank you for capturing the state so eloquently. I've asked Bard about how to dilute hydrogen peroxide from 10% (do not touch) to 3% (medical) while producing a specific quantity of the dilute... Results were harmful.
- bende511 3y ago
  GroverhausAI, coming to a neighborhood near you soon!
- jncfhnb 3y ago
  There have been some gen ai architecture design tools posted here with such flaws. They were not so bold as to call them construction plans.
- RhodesianHunter 3y ago
  I read it as obviously and entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Workaccount2 3y ago
The core tool being offered here is allowing experts to focus more on checking work than solving work. It's way faster to check if a Sudoku puzzle is correct than it is to solve the Sudoku puzzle.
- beeboobaa3 3y ago
  It's also way easier, and much less responsibility, to miss a mistake than to make one. "Oh, yeah, that was a fuckup but the AI did it, not me! What, I was supposed to catch it? Well, I blame the AI!"
  - notnaut 3y ago
    Insurance exists. Money points to something in reality (usually). Negligence and duty don’t change and the implementing human (the person checking for mistakes) will be just as liable as the human implementing someone else’s work today. But true… it is unlikely the AI firms or the suits that force it into every nook and cranny they can will ever be held accountable for the mistakes it will inevitably make. Not without a couple catastrophes first.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    I was thinking that, but then I remembered how often humans make mistakes and and don't check their own work. For me, a common example is loose/lose, which I only find in my writing by assistance from text-to-speech. Did you spot the deliberate mistake in this comment? Because that too is one I miss, when the two words are separated by a line-break.
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
    Engineers already sign off on work done by others all the time. This isn't some new or radical concept. For civil engineering projects, you can face jail time if you signed off on bad work regardless of who did it.
- tivert 3y ago
  > The core tool being offered here is allowing experts to focus more on checking work than solving work. That sounds like a nightmare, not an improvement. Really, think about it. It's the same shit as "self driving" cars that need continuous human monitoring. You're taking an relatively engaging task and replacing it with a mind-numbing slog that humans are particularly bad at. Not to mention the skill of being able to "check work" usually flows from deep experience of "doing work." > It's way faster to check if a Sudoku puzzle is correct than it is to solve the Sudoku puzzle. Yeah, and which of those tasks do humans choose to do? I don't see many "100 Solved Sudoku Puzzles To Check" books in the bookstore.

htrp 3y ago

> We’re getting sued for the homes we built that have unreachable floors and outdoor facing windows placed inscrutably on load bearing interior walls but I feel really good about our legal defense This seems oddly specific, has this already happened in real life?

langsoul-com 3y ago
This is happening a lot in Australia, very dodgy builders resulting in illegal (from the building code) houses. Some are unsafe, others are failing apart way quicker due to the shortcuts taken.
nicklecompte 3y ago
Not in the sense of an architect actually building a generative AI blueprint. But transformer ANNs are simply incapable of designing physically plausible construction plans. Theoretically, not being able to solve graph connectivity seems like a big issue. Empirically, not being able to count is a fatal flaw.
- drbig 3y ago
  > Theoretically, not being able to solve graph connectivity seems like a big issue. Empirically, not being able to count is a fatal flaw. Thank you for capturing the state so eloquently. I've asked Bard about how to dilute hydrogen peroxide from 10% (do not touch) to 3% (medical) while producing a specific quantity of the dilute... Results were harmful.
bende511 3y ago
GroverhausAI, coming to a neighborhood near you soon!
jncfhnb 3y ago
There have been some gen ai architecture design tools posted here with such flaws. They were not so bold as to call them construction plans.
RhodesianHunter 3y ago
I read it as obviously and entirely tongue-in-cheek.

Workaccount2 3y ago

The core tool being offered here is allowing experts to focus more on checking work than solving work. It's way faster to check if a Sudoku puzzle is correct than it is to solve the Sudoku puzzle.

beeboobaa3 3y ago
It's also way easier, and much less responsibility, to miss a mistake than to make one. "Oh, yeah, that was a fuckup but the AI did it, not me! What, I was supposed to catch it? Well, I blame the AI!"
- notnaut 3y ago
  Insurance exists. Money points to something in reality (usually). Negligence and duty don’t change and the implementing human (the person checking for mistakes) will be just as liable as the human implementing someone else’s work today. But true… it is unlikely the AI firms or the suits that force it into every nook and cranny they can will ever be held accountable for the mistakes it will inevitably make. Not without a couple catastrophes first.
- ben_w 3y ago
  I was thinking that, but then I remembered how often humans make mistakes and and don't check their own work. For me, a common example is loose/lose, which I only find in my writing by assistance from text-to-speech. Did you spot the deliberate mistake in this comment? Because that too is one I miss, when the two words are separated by a line-break.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  Engineers already sign off on work done by others all the time. This isn't some new or radical concept. For civil engineering projects, you can face jail time if you signed off on bad work regardless of who did it.
tivert 3y ago
> The core tool being offered here is allowing experts to focus more on checking work than solving work. That sounds like a nightmare, not an improvement. Really, think about it. It's the same shit as "self driving" cars that need continuous human monitoring. You're taking an relatively engaging task and replacing it with a mind-numbing slog that humans are particularly bad at. Not to mention the skill of being able to "check work" usually flows from deep experience of "doing work." > It's way faster to check if a Sudoku puzzle is correct than it is to solve the Sudoku puzzle. Yeah, and which of those tasks do humans choose to do? I don't see many "100 Solved Sudoku Puzzles To Check" books in the bookstore.