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> I'd add that these days it totally makes sense to download libgen's entire archive, because (1) storage has never been cheaper, and (2) you can use it to trai
by RetroTechie 2y ago
> I'd add that these days it totally makes sense to download libgen's entire archive, because (1) storage has never been cheaper, and (2) you can use it to train local LLMs.
Hardly. Data hoarding comes with most downsides of hoarding physical objects. It's just smaller, cheaper & easier to process.
There's people that get rid of any physical object they haven't used in the past year (or 2, or 5, whatever). This makes sense. Imho, every object you own falls in 3 categories:
1) Things you use on a (semi?) regular basis. They make your life easier/nicer.
2) Things that are valuable. For flexible metrics of what constitutes value (sentimental, nostalgia, monetary, insurance against 'disaster', ...)
Not having used something in a long time is a good hint it's not valuable.
3) Luggage. Whose value is negative. It doesn't provide anything, just takes up space, drains mental energy (and possibly other resources), and in doing so gets in the way of other pursuits.
Data is no different. For any single piece of it, you either use it from time to time, somehow derive value from it, or it is useless luggage that you drag around at a cost.
Apply good judgement in what to hoard.
- throwaway14356 2y agoi just keep everything ive bothered to keep, (data and stuff) i put it in a sensible place and it only consumes time when looking for it. the new external drive is so much larger than the oldest ones i put the new stuff on it and use the rest of the space to backup old drives. friends are constantly purging stuff but they seem unaware how much time and effort it takes. the significant other wanted to clean up her old photos rather than upgrade the icloud. its an insane amount of work?
- squigz 2y ago> Data hoarding comes with most downsides of hoarding physical objects. It's just smaller, cheaper & easier to process. So the same downsides, except ... much better? > There's people that get rid of any physical object they haven't used in the past year (or 2, or 5, whatever) > Data is no different. ... you either use it from time to time I suppose the real question then is what timeframe do you consider "using it from time to time"? It seems to me that this depends very much on the person, and likely on the objects themselves - probably a large appliance you haven't used in a year is likelier to be thrown away than a small item you haven't used in several. Considering data storage is smaller, cheaper, and easier to manage, I suppose a reasonable timeframe for keeping it, just in case, would be a lot longer than physical items. This of course says nothing of the societal and cultural value such archivists safeguard.