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AI Leapfrogging: How AI Will Transform “Lagging” Industries (2023)
- the_doctah 2y agoThe opening sentence alone was enough to make me laugh and close this article.
- tonmoy 2y agoWhile it might seem a little extreme, the first sentence isn’t necessarily wrong, right?
- the_doctah 2y agoWhile it may be technically true, the article simply uses it as a "hook"; and instead of explaining the likely plethora of factors contributing to that, it allows the reader to assume it is because of AI, which is ridiculous.
- GaggiX 2y agoYou should have read the article, they explained it in the second paragraph, and I have no idea why anyone would assume it's because of AI.
- the_doctah 2y agoBecause of the article's title? Why would I want to learn about that, when I opened an article about AI? Let's engage with reality a moment: A country like Kenya "leapfrogged" credit cards because they failed to implement them on a useful timeline compared to other countries. Leapfrogging by falling behind isn't the great example the article wants it to be.
- GaggiX 2y agoThird paragraph: "We believe that the same way mobile payments leapfrogged credit cards in some markets, and mobile phones leapfrogged desktop computers in developing economies, AI too will (at least initially) leapfrog more legacy technologies that don’t have a “good enough” palliative (I mean alternative) in place." >Leapfrogging by falling behind isn't the great example the article wants it to be. It doesn't really matter if you end up with a better solution anyway, it's really the point of the article.
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- RhodesianHunter 2y agoThat's not the point at all.
- the_doctah 2y agoThe article has no point. Total nonsense and buzzwords to drive AI hype.
- rsynnott 2y agoI mean, it's true, but it is a classic lead-up to a superficially convincing-sounding, yet incorrect, just-so explanation of _why_ that is. Which they then go on to make.
- worthless-trash 2y agoCan someone explain to me how: landline -> desktop -> mobile is a progression of technologies ? Maybe "AI" might be able to transform technology, but if thats the demonstration of an example, I don't think the progression works how they think it does.
- zzbzq 2y agoSeems like a logical progression of technologies to me. You could throw FAX machines in there.
- tivert 2y ago> Seems like a logical progression of technologies to me. You could throw FAX machines in there. The implicit assumption seems to be the latter technologies in the list are strictly superior to the former, which is completely false. The article says this: > Technological leapfrogging occurs when an industry or market (usually an outmoded industry or emerging market) skips a step along the technology transformation chain. > Instead of learning to use a personal computer and then a mobile phone, you skip right to mobile. In many emerging markets, mobile is the dominant computing paradigm. That kind of leapfrogging actually seems like a massive handicap. Mobile phones have severe limitations compared to PCs as devices for productive work.
- langsoul-com 2y agoIt doesn't mean emerging markets don't use desktops or laptops. It means they won't be frozen on old tech. Think mobile payments. South East Asia has mobile payments with 0% additional fees. Meanwhile the West is shackled to cards, adding 2-3% for what? Yet stuck with cards for a while due to not starting with mobile.
- tivert 2y ago> Think mobile payments. South East Asia has mobile payments with 0% additional fees. If that's the case, how to the mobile payments companies make money? > Meanwhile the West is shackled to cards, adding 2-3% for what? Yet stuck with cards for a while due to not starting with mobile. IIRC, the 2-3% fees aren't due to technology, they're due to regulation and legal agreements. And it's mostly a spat between the merchants and banks, because most cards (in the US, at least) have "rewards" that remit a portion of those fees to the card user (e.g. all my cards pay me at least 1% cash back, and more in certain circumstances depending on the card).
- mlinhares 2y agoIts completely bonkers to read in 2024 that "AGRICULTURE, hospitality, education, legal, construction, and manufacturing" have had no productivity gains due to technology.
- kortilla 2y agoI think the author just lives in a bubble and assumes agriculture is the same way they saw it 20 years ago. Meanwhile image recognition is already being used to identify weeds to avoid spraying on the entire crop. Combines are somewhat self driving.
- mlinhares 2y agoWe use drones and satellite imagery to evaluate crop health and yields. To say there has been no advancement means that either they don't know what they're talking about or living under a rock. But then its people pushing AI hype so it could just be that they're just trying to trick people that don't know better to believe the hype.
- asahazmy 2y agoHi, I just wondering what you think if we change the statement a little bit. Maybe it's wrong if we say there has been no advancement. But can we say it's slower to adopt all these technologies in agriculture?
- liveoneggs 2y agoMany people who advocate for technologies appear to have zero capability of understanding that the world exists outside of their own understanding, so aren't even capable of forming questions like "how was this done in the past?" or "are these problems real?"
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- jncfhnb 2y ago> Generative AI is an instantaneous push-button solution. It generates a legal brief or construction plan from scratch. Interacting with software is like chatting to a friend. You don’t have to re-learn your whole process – you simply remove tedious tasks from your to-do list. We’re getting sued for the homes we built that have unreachable floors and outdoor facing windows placed inscrutably on load bearing interior walls but I feel really good about our legal defense
- htrp 2y ago> We’re getting sued for the homes we built that have unreachable floors and outdoor facing windows placed inscrutably on load bearing interior walls but I feel really good about our legal defense This seems oddly specific, has this already happened in real life?
- langsoul-com 2y agoThis is happening a lot in Australia, very dodgy builders resulting in illegal (from the building code) houses. Some are unsafe, others are failing apart way quicker due to the shortcuts taken.
- nicklecompte 2y agoNot in the sense of an architect actually building a generative AI blueprint. But transformer ANNs are simply incapable of designing physically plausible construction plans. Theoretically, not being able to solve graph connectivity seems like a big issue. Empirically, not being able to count is a fatal flaw.
- drbig 2y ago> Theoretically, not being able to solve graph connectivity seems like a big issue. Empirically, not being able to count is a fatal flaw. Thank you for capturing the state so eloquently. I've asked Bard about how to dilute hydrogen peroxide from 10% (do not touch) to 3% (medical) while producing a specific quantity of the dilute... Results were harmful.
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- 65 2y agoCall me a Luddite but I don't want more and more technology. I don't want AI. I want to build my own house, grow my own food, make my own shoes. We've had lots and lots of economic growth... but at what cost?
- GaggiX 2y ago>I don't want AI. Don't use it. >I want to build my own house, grow my own food, make my own shoes. AI is not stopping you from doing these things.
- 65 2y agoI'm not saying this as a direct 1:1 link between the two. I'm using AI as an example for advancing technology. And by the way, advanced technology like smartphones and social media and the internet are all basically required for modern life. As much as I'd like to enjoy living on a farm in the middle of no where, not many other people would enjoy that either and therefore I'd be (mostly) alone, defeating the entire purpose of a neo-Luddite lifestyle - to get back to being a human in an increasingly alienated world.
- GaggiX 2y agoThere are many groups in the US that live with very little use of advanced technology, but very few people have joined them from outside, the vast majority leave after experiencing the lifestyle for some time, modern conveniences are hard to leave behind. It's easy to judge others for not wanting to live your "neo-Luddite lifestyle", I believe they are less delusional than you.
- 65 2y agoYou seem a little aggressive here. Trying to go to a more primitive lifestyle now, in 2024, is largely futile. If it were, say, 500 years ago or 2000 years ago, "modern" life back then would have been simpler - and participating in society would involve many of the agrarian practices I've mentioned. With it comes horrible things like serfdom and slavery, too. Modern life has its benefits as well. And I have met a lot of Amish people, they seem pretty content. They build furniture and barns. Drive horse carriages. This is just my vision of an "ideal" life and more importantly an ideal _society_ - it's not as though I'm actively trying to move out to the woods or become Amish. I just wish for less endless technological advancement and more self-sufficiency.
- bearjaws 2y agoI always love how the new "shiny" AI will help an industry, despite the fact that old "boring" AI has not even penetrated yet. The article specifically mentions agriculture, where machine vision has barely been deployed, and the company that is making the automatic pest / weed killer using lasers and MV is still in a "trial". A case of: When AI is your hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.
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- ben_w 2y ago> A case of: When AI is your hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. Sure, but before half the world decided that "AGI" meant what I always called "ASI", the "G" meant "General", as in it's a general-use tool, so the hammer/nail analogy isn't anything like as apt as when "AI" meant "plays chess and nothing else".
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- mattgreenrocks 2y agoI'm long-term bullish on AI, but tired of reading about the things it will one day do. It's way too close to all the hype around blockchain and web 3. Show me actual results today, not tomorrow's promises. At least TFA cites some results. But I have a hard time extrapolating that out further. I suppose I'm not cut out for thought leadership. :)
- p0nce 2y agoThe actual results today is buying 30B of NVIDIA GPUs to create 3B of revenue.
- KaiserPro 2y agoCool story bro, but you're going to need to actually have some products to demonstrate for that to be real. Push button legal contracts, great, we have those already, they are called templates. The problem is not the contract, its the litigation that follows the contract. > Generative AI is an instantaneous push-button solution. It generates a legal brief or construction plan from scratch. Interacting with software is like chatting to a friend. You don’t have to re-learn your whole process – you simply remove tedious tasks from your to-do list. Ok ok ok, but thats a could. I mean I can ask a chatbot to make a contract for me, but is it legal, does it have a back door in it that allows something stupid to happen? Same with Visas, the hard part isn't the form filling, its getting past the burdens of proof. Where Legal chatbots might be useful, some day, is flagging for odd clauses. _eventually_ I can see that "AI" will help automate a bunch of legal stuff, but its out of reach of current LLMs, as their inference of implications from text is sketchy at best. Moreover, new laws/contracting terms have less training data, which tends to bias the output in the wrong direction.
- sremani 2y agoAI is useful especially when there is a tight feedback loop. Validating what the AI suggests via a 'System' or a Competent Mahoot riding it. I find it incredibly useful when I am specific and can test out. I installed the new Ubuntu LTS and was trying to install a cargo package and was running into issue. Google/Bing search took me on a tangent. I put in the error in ChatGPT 3.5, got exact apt install to solve the issue and it worked when tried. A million of these a day is going to have one heck of an effect on the planet. I am not saying AI fixes the search but the Search Results are hit and miss any way. The real low hanging fruit are the domains, where the existing system is hit and miss. The AI long case is, that People are also glorified LLMs/Pattern-matching machines. People who can make Computers sing will make AI sing (most likely). For most domains, AI elevates their 'base line' from the existing floor.
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