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Is it? My experience with Arc (which I would assume would be heavier than Chrome) has been that it adds a lot of scary entries in the Resource Monitor App, but

Is it? My experience with Arc (which I would assume would be heavier than Chrome) has been that it adds a lot of scary entries in the Resource Monitor App, but doesn't impact my day-to-day use on my 16 Gb M1 MBP. With Safari, on the other hand, I've experienced audio stutter and delays when using resource intensive wep-apps like YouTube, Figma, Netflix and others.

meindnoch 2y ago
YouTube and Netflix are resource intensive webapps? What is so resource intensive about them? A <video> element?
- f_devd 2y ago
  Not for YouTube, but Netflix DRM possibly?
  - meindnoch 2y ago
    You think DRM is implemented in software? :D
- abhinavk 2y ago
  Widevine DRM for Netflix. AV1 decoding and the SPA for YouTube.
  - Hamuko 2y ago
    Apple's M3 has AV1 hardware decoding, so I imagine that shouldn't be a massive issue in the future.
  - microtonal 2y ago
    On my Mac with Safari, Youtube uses VP9, even with 4k HDR material. Apple Silicon Macs have VP9 hardware decoding, so the load is very small. I have never experienced audio stutter and delays like the upthread commenter claims.
- pavlov 2y ago
  That would be the case if the Netflix UI was a search box where you type in the name of a movie and then it starts playing. The actual UI is a lot more complex. On the front page there are dozens of dynamic categories that are filled out with high-res thumbnail images, and the content starts autoplaying within a few seconds when you stop on an item. Now, I’m not saying that’s necessarily a good interface (personally I hate overactive autoplay). But from an engineering POV, clearly there’s a bunch of prefetching and cache management that needs to happen to make that UI look seamless, without loading pauses or missing content at any step. And media caches do qualify as “resource intensive.”
  - pests 2y ago
    You can turn that autoplay off now in the settings.

meindnoch 2y ago

YouTube and Netflix are resource intensive webapps? What is so resource intensive about them? A <video> element?

f_devd 2y ago
Not for YouTube, but Netflix DRM possibly?
- meindnoch 2y ago
  You think DRM is implemented in software? :D
abhinavk 2y ago
Widevine DRM for Netflix. AV1 decoding and the SPA for YouTube.
- Hamuko 2y ago
  Apple's M3 has AV1 hardware decoding, so I imagine that shouldn't be a massive issue in the future.
- microtonal 2y ago
  On my Mac with Safari, Youtube uses VP9, even with 4k HDR material. Apple Silicon Macs have VP9 hardware decoding, so the load is very small. I have never experienced audio stutter and delays like the upthread commenter claims.
pavlov 2y ago
That would be the case if the Netflix UI was a search box where you type in the name of a movie and then it starts playing. The actual UI is a lot more complex. On the front page there are dozens of dynamic categories that are filled out with high-res thumbnail images, and the content starts autoplaying within a few seconds when you stop on an item. Now, I’m not saying that’s necessarily a good interface (personally I hate overactive autoplay). But from an engineering POV, clearly there’s a bunch of prefetching and cache management that needs to happen to make that UI look seamless, without loading pauses or missing content at any step. And media caches do qualify as “resource intensive.”
- pests 2y ago
  You can turn that autoplay off now in the settings.