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> That's not the same as having power. Sure, to first order, it isn't the same. But in practice they end up being very similar things and I think its a genuine
by nathan_compton 3y ago
> That's not the same as having power.
Sure, to first order, it isn't the same. But in practice they end up being very similar things and I think its a genuine issue with a system which justifies capitalism by saying "the excesses will be restrained by the state." In practice, capital spends quite a lot of time and money capturing and restraining the state.
I've come to feel that people are just fundamentally ungovernable at some deep level and so all solutions end up with glaring imperfections. We just have to ride the dragon of history, basically.
- randomdata 3y ago> capital spends quite a lot of time and money capturing and restraining the state. To be fair, under democracy, everyone must be doing this. That is your democratic obligation. Most people just don't. And fair enough that they don't – I value prioritizing putting a roof over my head and having food to eat too! Perhaps the takeaway here is, ultimately, that capitalism and democracy are incompatible?
- nathan_compton 3y agoI really don't know, frankly. I think to a degree one needs to have a good civil culture, but capital also works hard to influence culture for its own benefit. Maybe we just don't even have the social technology to square this circle yet.