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I feel like I wouldn't want the Apple Vision Pro until they open up the OS; it is way too restricted right now, like iPad OS. Is this a reasonable concern?

SushiHippie 2y ago
Is there a difference between iOS and iPadOS in regards of restrictions, or why do you mention iPadOS specifically?
- jitl 2y ago
  Vision Pro runs iPad apps, and has a windowing system UI that’s similar to iPadOS. It feels like a “spatial” fork of iPadOS. iPad apps respond to “touch” if you bring them in arms reach you can do all the typical iPad gestures like scrolling, tapping, etc with your hand physically touching the app window, in addition to doing it with gaze.
wpm 2y ago
It’s just as locked down as the iPad, but more frustrating since there is so much clear potential that won’t be realized until Apple gets the fuck out of the way. They never will, since they claim ownership over both the platform and every single experience on it. Developers work for them, get paid by them, and do what they are told they are allowed to do. And it’ll choke this headset to death. They can’t pull the same crap with this platform but they’re going to try.
- jitl 2y ago
  I agree that being much more iPad than Mac makes it feel like a huge waste of potential. Maybe it can’t be Mac-like in UI since you need large interaction targets, but it could allow much more “full computer” style productivity
vineyardmike 2y ago
I bought and returned the AVP. I feel like there's a cohort of people who always mention wanting "opened up" operating systems, and I get it, but this is totally not the problem with the AVP. iPads are popular too, after all. The AVP is an iPad, not a computer. It does offer a better "personal computing" story compared to a tablet, but that's it. There are many issues, but the cost and general UX is the issue. There's not a lot to do, and it's worse at most tasks than the alternatives.

SushiHippie 2y ago

Is there a difference between iOS and iPadOS in regards of restrictions, or why do you mention iPadOS specifically?

jitl 2y ago
Vision Pro runs iPad apps, and has a windowing system UI that’s similar to iPadOS. It feels like a “spatial” fork of iPadOS. iPad apps respond to “touch” if you bring them in arms reach you can do all the typical iPad gestures like scrolling, tapping, etc with your hand physically touching the app window, in addition to doing it with gaze.

wpm 2y ago

It’s just as locked down as the iPad, but more frustrating since there is so much clear potential that won’t be realized until Apple gets the fuck out of the way. They never will, since they claim ownership over both the platform and every single experience on it. Developers work for them, get paid by them, and do what they are told they are allowed to do. And it’ll choke this headset to death. They can’t pull the same crap with this platform but they’re going to try.

jitl 2y ago
I agree that being much more iPad than Mac makes it feel like a huge waste of potential. Maybe it can’t be Mac-like in UI since you need large interaction targets, but it could allow much more “full computer” style productivity

vineyardmike 2y ago

I bought and returned the AVP. I feel like there's a cohort of people who always mention wanting "opened up" operating systems, and I get it, but this is totally not the problem with the AVP. iPads are popular too, after all. The AVP is an iPad, not a computer. It does offer a better "personal computing" story compared to a tablet, but that's it. There are many issues, but the cost and general UX is the issue. There's not a lot to do, and it's worse at most tasks than the alternatives.