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Do you have a link? All links I can find are broken ones to the FAO's website which doesn't seem to have it. But even what you said doesn't mean billions will

Do you have a link? All links I can find are broken ones to the FAO's website which doesn't seem to have it. But even what you said doesn't mean billions will starve or die from miserable conditions. Maybe billions will have to put on a raincoat as they're "suffering" from more rain than usual. This is the problem with alarmism - exaggerated claims that aren't coming from science.

defrost 2y ago
FAO webmasters are shuffling papers (maybe) .. the link of first hit was good from 2020 until 6 days ago - it seems dead now. The meta data car landing page is there: https://climate-adapt.eea.europa.eu/en/metadata/publications/climate-change-and-food-security-risks-and-responses-1 https://climate-adapt.eea.europa.eu/en/metadata/publications... with a WARNING Website experience degraded The European Climate and Health Observatory is undergoing reconstruction until June 2024 to improve its performance. We apologise for any possible disturbance to the content and functionality of the platform. The link itself (active for ~3+ years) is dead (for now) http://www.fao.org/3/a-i5188e.pdf http://www.fao.org/3/a-i5188e.pdf Give them a day or so to migrate doc storage I guess. > But even what you said doesn't mean billions will starve or die from miserable conditions. You asked another user for a link, I found the premise interesting and found a well researched paper that includes billions experiencing starvation within the entire possible scenarios (action needs to be taken to avoid type paths into the future). > This is the problem with alarmism - exaggerated claims that aren't coming from science. Well, that's your position - I work in geophysical exploration for minerals and energy etc. and none of the IPCC statements within the climate reports seem wildly exagerated, they strictly layout scenarios based on current trends in resource usage and responses and parallel those that are a standard deviation or so above and below.
- EnigmaFlare 2y ago
  I'd have to wait for the site to get fixed to be sure but "billions facing hunger, food insecurity and starvation to varying levels" is a much weaker statement than "billions experiencing starvation". The former describes how the world already is today.

defrost 2y ago

FAO webmasters are shuffling papers (maybe) .. the link of first hit was good from 2020 until 6 days ago - it seems dead now. The meta data car landing page is there: https://climate-adapt.eea.europa.eu/en/metadata/publications/climate-change-and-food-security-risks-and-responses-1 https://climate-adapt.eea.europa.eu/en/metadata/publications... with a WARNING Website experience degraded The European Climate and Health Observatory is undergoing reconstruction until June 2024 to improve its performance. We apologise for any possible disturbance to the content and functionality of the platform. The link itself (active for ~3+ years) is dead (for now) http://www.fao.org/3/a-i5188e.pdf http://www.fao.org/3/a-i5188e.pdf Give them a day or so to migrate doc storage I guess. > But even what you said doesn't mean billions will starve or die from miserable conditions. You asked another user for a link, I found the premise interesting and found a well researched paper that includes billions experiencing starvation within the entire possible scenarios (action needs to be taken to avoid type paths into the future). > This is the problem with alarmism - exaggerated claims that aren't coming from science. Well, that's your position - I work in geophysical exploration for minerals and energy etc. and none of the IPCC statements within the climate reports seem wildly exagerated, they strictly layout scenarios based on current trends in resource usage and responses and parallel those that are a standard deviation or so above and below.

EnigmaFlare 2y ago
I'd have to wait for the site to get fixed to be sure but "billions facing hunger, food insecurity and starvation to varying levels" is a much weaker statement than "billions experiencing starvation". The former describes how the world already is today.