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In several countries you can't file your taxes or access your bank without a google/apple smartphone. People need to live too.

by guappa 3y ago

threeseed 3y ago
What country only lets you file your taxes and do banking via a smartphone. It's always been an app in addition to a website.
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- guappa 3y ago
  In sweden you can't login to A LOT of stuff without a smartphone. Including taxes, getting a covid certificate, applying to rent an apartment.
  - Rochus 3y ago
    This seems very unlikely to me, as Sweden is known to be one of the most social countries in Europe, and such a requirement would not only discriminate against the less well-off, but also against the elderly and disabled. It would be very surprising if a majority could be found for such a regulation in Sweden.
    - guappa 2y ago
      Sweden has one of the highest wealth disparity in europe, and it's increasing. Also, as person living in sweden, let me tell you that marketing as inclusive is not the same as being inclusive. Spending money to let disabled people be able to get on trains, or checking that accessibility laws are respected (they aren't) are not things that happen in sweden. Just last month I encountered a broken elevator at a train station. Which means no taking the train if you're on a wheelchair (and good luck with getting a refund). Even worse, if you actually were on the train, you're now stuck on the platform and can't leave until the next train shows up. Of course to buy the ticket for the next train you will need a smartphone.
Rochus 3y ago
Such a state would not only be very unsocial (just think of the many elderly and disabled people, apart from the less well-off, who are unable to use such small screens and operating elements), but would also have to accept the question of why it is so interested in forcing such a device on every citizen.

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In several countries you can't file your taxes or access your bank without a google/apple smartphone. People need to live too.

by guappa 3y ago

In several countries you can't file your taxes or access your bank without a google/apple smartphone. People need to live too.

threeseed 3y ago
What country only lets you file your taxes and do banking via a smartphone. It's always been an app in addition to a website.
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- guappa 3y ago
  In sweden you can't login to A LOT of stuff without a smartphone. Including taxes, getting a covid certificate, applying to rent an apartment.
  - Rochus 3y ago
    This seems very unlikely to me, as Sweden is known to be one of the most social countries in Europe, and such a requirement would not only discriminate against the less well-off, but also against the elderly and disabled. It would be very surprising if a majority could be found for such a regulation in Sweden.
    - guappa 2y ago
      Sweden has one of the highest wealth disparity in europe, and it's increasing. Also, as person living in sweden, let me tell you that marketing as inclusive is not the same as being inclusive. Spending money to let disabled people be able to get on trains, or checking that accessibility laws are respected (they aren't) are not things that happen in sweden. Just last month I encountered a broken elevator at a train station. Which means no taking the train if you're on a wheelchair (and good luck with getting a refund). Even worse, if you actually were on the train, you're now stuck on the platform and can't leave until the next train shows up. Of course to buy the ticket for the next train you will need a smartphone.
Rochus 3y ago
Such a state would not only be very unsocial (just think of the many elderly and disabled people, apart from the less well-off, who are unable to use such small screens and operating elements), but would also have to accept the question of why it is so interested in forcing such a device on every citizen.