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> I’ll eat dinner and then still be hungry I'd take the odds that you eat too fast. Slow down and carefully chew every single bite. Put the cutlery down in-bet

> I’ll eat dinner and then still be hungry I'd take the odds that you eat too fast. Slow down and carefully chew every single bite. Put the cutlery down in-between bites.

dangus 2y ago
Thanks for the advice. It’s so helpful. Why didn’t I think of that? All the people who have never been fat have the best advice that us fatties totally appreciate and want to hear even when we never asked for it. In fact, it’s extra awesome when people bring up obvious advice when we don’t ask for it because fat people like me are actually less smart than you! So it’s really helpful to have a helping hand and I thank you for it. Thank you for downplaying a disease that almost half of the population has and for blaming it on me as an individual. Because obviously if half the country has the exact same ailment as me, it’s really a sign of the dangerous virality of the fast paced chewing lifestyle. Since most people who lost weight gain it back at some point statistically, it really makes logical sense that it’s all about how fast we are all chewing our food. All the celebrities and pundits on TV and in social media talk about how we need to chew our food faster, so it’s hard to escape that perverse influence.
- Dove 2y ago
  I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I have occasionally shared them. :( If you're interested, I do have a recommendation for you. For my money, Joel Greene is the best scientific thinker on the topic of diet and health, and his recent book "The Way" does a lot to replace frustration and confusion on the topic with sense and helpful advice. I recommend it if you've had success with a diet, and then regained the weight, and now nothing works - that's the exact problem he's focused on. Above and beyond whether you like his suggested solution, he does a lot to uncover mechanisms and explain the complexity of the problem. For what it's worth, I think your experience is completely normal. Nearly universal, even.
  - dangus 2y ago
    Oh my God it's like you didn't read my comment at all. I. Am. Not. Looking. For. Advice. Especailly not some stupid fucking self help book from a quack selling $100+ supplements.
    - Dove 2y ago
      Sorry - didn't mean to offend. I know unsolicited advice on the topic is unwelcome, and I don't exactly mean that I think I can solve your problems. More like, you seem frustrated by simple explanations, and I wanted to point you to the resource that I think does the best job of explaining why you are right -- things are complicated. I know Joel Greene comes off as a nut, and I don't usually recommend him for that reason. But you could also hardly ask for more mechanistic detail and science than he goes into. Seemed something you might be interested in. My bad if it's not. If you'd rather see the bibliography without the boomer, here's what's directly relevant to what you were writing about - one of the (several) mechanisms for weight regain and why losing weight is so much more difficult the second time around: https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/pdfExtended/S1550-4131(23)00080-3 https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/pdfExtended/S1550-4131(... (TLDR: Control of hunger by the hypothalmus responds to dieting by becoming more aggressive, and it stays that way after the diet stops.) It's not in your head and it's not a character flaw. Purely physiologically speaking, naive, restrictive dieting really does become much harder, if not impossible, the more you do it.

> I’ll eat dinner and then still be hungry I'd take the odds that you eat too fast. Slow down and carefully chew every single bite. Put the cutlery down in-between bites.

dangus 2y ago

Thanks for the advice. It’s so helpful. Why didn’t I think of that? All the people who have never been fat have the best advice that us fatties totally appreciate and want to hear even when we never asked for it. In fact, it’s extra awesome when people bring up obvious advice when we don’t ask for it because fat people like me are actually less smart than you! So it’s really helpful to have a helping hand and I thank you for it. Thank you for downplaying a disease that almost half of the population has and for blaming it on me as an individual. Because obviously if half the country has the exact same ailment as me, it’s really a sign of the dangerous virality of the fast paced chewing lifestyle. Since most people who lost weight gain it back at some point statistically, it really makes logical sense that it’s all about how fast we are all chewing our food. All the celebrities and pundits on TV and in social media talk about how we need to chew our food faster, so it’s hard to escape that perverse influence.

Dove 2y ago
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I have occasionally shared them. :( If you're interested, I do have a recommendation for you. For my money, Joel Greene is the best scientific thinker on the topic of diet and health, and his recent book "The Way" does a lot to replace frustration and confusion on the topic with sense and helpful advice. I recommend it if you've had success with a diet, and then regained the weight, and now nothing works - that's the exact problem he's focused on. Above and beyond whether you like his suggested solution, he does a lot to uncover mechanisms and explain the complexity of the problem. For what it's worth, I think your experience is completely normal. Nearly universal, even.
- dangus 2y ago
  Oh my God it's like you didn't read my comment at all. I. Am. Not. Looking. For. Advice. Especailly not some stupid fucking self help book from a quack selling $100+ supplements.
  - Dove 2y ago
    Sorry - didn't mean to offend. I know unsolicited advice on the topic is unwelcome, and I don't exactly mean that I think I can solve your problems. More like, you seem frustrated by simple explanations, and I wanted to point you to the resource that I think does the best job of explaining why you are right -- things are complicated. I know Joel Greene comes off as a nut, and I don't usually recommend him for that reason. But you could also hardly ask for more mechanistic detail and science than he goes into. Seemed something you might be interested in. My bad if it's not. If you'd rather see the bibliography without the boomer, here's what's directly relevant to what you were writing about - one of the (several) mechanisms for weight regain and why losing weight is so much more difficult the second time around: https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/pdfExtended/S1550-4131(23)00080-3 https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/pdfExtended/S1550-4131(... (TLDR: Control of hunger by the hypothalmus responds to dieting by becoming more aggressive, and it stays that way after the diet stops.) It's not in your head and it's not a character flaw. Purely physiologically speaking, naive, restrictive dieting really does become much harder, if not impossible, the more you do it.