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<Sigh> Australia went through this very same propaganda when a once in 100 year lightning storm caused a big grid interconnect failure, and a large part of an

by grecy 3y ago

<Sigh> Australia went through this very same propaganda when a once in 100 year lightning storm caused a big grid interconnect failure, and a large part of an entire state was without power for weeks [1] The Politicians at the time spun it as being caused by evil renewables, and the damage was done. A huge percentage of the population still believes that renewables cause power outages, cause prices to go up, and are the work of the devil. Talk about putting a spin on something to ensure the legacy providers keeps making a profit. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_South_Australian_blackout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_South_Australian_blackout

MilnerRoute 3y ago
Yeah, I've been wondering if any of this is coming from Texas grid operators behaving hostilely toward renewable power? "State utility regulators shot down efforts by ERCOT to impose new rules on large-scale battery sites, siding with operators who decried the grid operator’s rules as costly and discriminatory. The unanimous decision by the Public Utility Commission of Texas came after five months... It was touched off by a report from the grid operator intended to show grid-level batteries were unreliable without stricter rules. Texas battery operators, seven of which wrote letters ahead of the meeting opposing all or parts of the proposal, weren’t the only ones not buying it..." https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/battery-ercot-contested-regulations-1186-18614035.php https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/battery-ercot-c...
- grecy 3y ago
  Wondering? It couldn't be more clear!
boringg 3y ago
Alberta is the same. The playbooks is the same the players are a bit different. Resistance to change and embedded incentives are the cause. Its tiring to watch us repeat the same things over and over again.
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
As a resident of that state it was frustrating to see the media and political narratives both untruthful and in alignment. Even the impressive images of a downed giant 'giraffe' transmission tower[0] wasn't enough to convince those who wanted the anti-renewable narrative to be true. Apparently 20 towers collapsed in total. Surely a more decentralised grid (a grid of micro-grids?), more easily facilitated by smaller and more distributed generation (including rooftop solar and home batteries), would mitigate such events? Too complicated and nuanced a concept for your average outrage-consumer and too long-lasting a project for your average politician to take credit for. [0]: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-28/sa-statewide-blackout-anniversary-energy-impacts/100496564 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-28/sa-statewide-blackout... (top article image)
- grecy 3y ago
  Without a doubt. I'm also sure the sun rising is a tad more reliable than a coal plant.. at least for another few billion years.

by grecy 3y ago

MilnerRoute 3y ago

Yeah, I've been wondering if any of this is coming from Texas grid operators behaving hostilely toward renewable power? "State utility regulators shot down efforts by ERCOT to impose new rules on large-scale battery sites, siding with operators who decried the grid operator’s rules as costly and discriminatory. The unanimous decision by the Public Utility Commission of Texas came after five months... It was touched off by a report from the grid operator intended to show grid-level batteries were unreliable without stricter rules. Texas battery operators, seven of which wrote letters ahead of the meeting opposing all or parts of the proposal, weren’t the only ones not buying it..." https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/battery-ercot-contested-regulations-1186-18614035.php https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/battery-ercot-c...

grecy 3y ago
Wondering? It couldn't be more clear!

boringg 3y ago

Alberta is the same. The playbooks is the same the players are a bit different. Resistance to change and embedded incentives are the cause. Its tiring to watch us repeat the same things over and over again.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

As a resident of that state it was frustrating to see the media and political narratives both untruthful and in alignment. Even the impressive images of a downed giant 'giraffe' transmission tower[0] wasn't enough to convince those who wanted the anti-renewable narrative to be true. Apparently 20 towers collapsed in total. Surely a more decentralised grid (a grid of micro-grids?), more easily facilitated by smaller and more distributed generation (including rooftop solar and home batteries), would mitigate such events? Too complicated and nuanced a concept for your average outrage-consumer and too long-lasting a project for your average politician to take credit for. [0]: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-28/sa-statewide-blackout-anniversary-energy-impacts/100496564 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-28/sa-statewide-blackout... (top article image)

grecy 3y ago
Without a doubt. I'm also sure the sun rising is a tad more reliable than a coal plant.. at least for another few billion years.