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Some missing essential context: pretty sure this was Russian users in the aftermath of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

thegrim33 2y ago
I don't consider the country name essential context. The point is that if any country does something the company doesn't like, they've shown they'll just drop the country. Whether you agree with what the country did or not.
- mr_toad 2y ago
  Frankly I wish more companies had the balls to do that.
- nocoiner 2y ago
  Seems like the point here is that that country did something that was pretty, pretty bad (in their opinion, anyway) and decided to abide by their principles rather than maximize profit. I assume there are other capitalists out there who made the other decision. I’m OK with that. I know which of those I’d prefer to work with. Sounds like you do, too.
- miragecraft 2y ago
  AFAIK most of Namecheap’s employees are Ukrainian. It’s quite a bit more than “doesn’t like” when a country is actively trying to kill you and your family, more like “hate with the passion of a thousand burning suns”.
gertop 2y ago
The full context is that they gave them 1 week to migrate before termination. The reason is that namecheap is an American company in name only. The bulk of their staff is in Ukraine, only the well paid execs reside in America. Personally the short grace period and (very) lackluster attempt at notifying affected customers made me lose trust in them, even though I agree with sanctions on a moral level. I moved my two dozen domains to porkbun. As a bonus they have actually qualified support staff, being with namecheap so long I had forgotten what it was like to have support immediately understand DNS-specific terms.
- renk 2y ago
  Glad you finally made the switch.
southernplaces7 2y ago
>Some missing essential context: pretty sure this was Russian users in the aftermath of the Russian invasion of Ukraine And what the bloody hell does it matter? If there's one site where I'd expect little in the way of always idiotic Rah Rah war fever, it's this one, yet here it is. A country's government should be distinguished from its people, and treating them all at the same level as if they were garbage without knowing their circumstances is plainly, obviously brainless as it's always been. During the First World War many people started piling shit on anyone with a German last name because "they're our enemy!" and the second one, many people did the same with hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese immigrants. Truly, do intelligent people with a brain really feel a need to support such a mentality today? What Namecheap did in its own minor turf didn't require balls. It was the easiest sort of falsely brave kowtowing to a popular sentiment. Balls is what's required to ignore politically and socially fashionable labels for the sake of deeper principles.
- mopsi 2y ago
  What deeper principles do you mean, profit above all else, like IBM and countless other companies chose to do business with Nazi Germany? Russia was and continues to rain down missiles and artillery on cities where most of Namecheap's employees live and work while Russian population cheers for their extermination. Refusal of service is hardly comparable to Japanese internment camps.
  - southernplaces7 2y ago
    You are capable of making the distinction between IBM selling devices directly to the Nazi government knowing what it might do with them, and Namecheap selling hosting services to average Russians who might be using said hosting to say, run a small business for their basic livelihood, yes? Russia's government fires missiles at Ukraine, where Namecheap employees live, Some dude in Samara who hosts his family's restaurant page through Namecheap doesn't fire those missiles. Spare the bullshit. Things like this rarely do much moral good, and speak poorly of the mentality of those who support them. The comparison to the kind of idiot righteousness that caused people to consider all Germans or all Japanese enemies to be derided because of specific things done by a government is in the same vein as this.

I don't consider the country name essential context. The point is that if any country does something the company doesn't like, they've shown they'll just drop the country. Whether you agree with what the country did or not.

mr_toad 2y ago
Frankly I wish more companies had the balls to do that.
nocoiner 2y ago
Seems like the point here is that that country did something that was pretty, pretty bad (in their opinion, anyway) and decided to abide by their principles rather than maximize profit. I assume there are other capitalists out there who made the other decision. I’m OK with that. I know which of those I’d prefer to work with. Sounds like you do, too.
miragecraft 2y ago
AFAIK most of Namecheap’s employees are Ukrainian. It’s quite a bit more than “doesn’t like” when a country is actively trying to kill you and your family, more like “hate with the passion of a thousand burning suns”.

gertop 2y ago

The full context is that they gave them 1 week to migrate before termination. The reason is that namecheap is an American company in name only. The bulk of their staff is in Ukraine, only the well paid execs reside in America. Personally the short grace period and (very) lackluster attempt at notifying affected customers made me lose trust in them, even though I agree with sanctions on a moral level. I moved my two dozen domains to porkbun. As a bonus they have actually qualified support staff, being with namecheap so long I had forgotten what it was like to have support immediately understand DNS-specific terms.

renk 2y ago
Glad you finally made the switch.

southernplaces7 2y ago

>Some missing essential context: pretty sure this was Russian users in the aftermath of the Russian invasion of Ukraine And what the bloody hell does it matter? If there's one site where I'd expect little in the way of always idiotic Rah Rah war fever, it's this one, yet here it is. A country's government should be distinguished from its people, and treating them all at the same level as if they were garbage without knowing their circumstances is plainly, obviously brainless as it's always been. During the First World War many people started piling shit on anyone with a German last name because "they're our enemy!" and the second one, many people did the same with hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese immigrants. Truly, do intelligent people with a brain really feel a need to support such a mentality today? What Namecheap did in its own minor turf didn't require balls. It was the easiest sort of falsely brave kowtowing to a popular sentiment. Balls is what's required to ignore politically and socially fashionable labels for the sake of deeper principles.

mopsi 2y ago
What deeper principles do you mean, profit above all else, like IBM and countless other companies chose to do business with Nazi Germany? Russia was and continues to rain down missiles and artillery on cities where most of Namecheap's employees live and work while Russian population cheers for their extermination. Refusal of service is hardly comparable to Japanese internment camps.
- southernplaces7 2y ago
  You are capable of making the distinction between IBM selling devices directly to the Nazi government knowing what it might do with them, and Namecheap selling hosting services to average Russians who might be using said hosting to say, run a small business for their basic livelihood, yes? Russia's government fires missiles at Ukraine, where Namecheap employees live, Some dude in Samara who hosts his family's restaurant page through Namecheap doesn't fire those missiles. Spare the bullshit. Things like this rarely do much moral good, and speak poorly of the mentality of those who support them. The comparison to the kind of idiot righteousness that caused people to consider all Germans or all Japanese enemies to be derided because of specific things done by a government is in the same vein as this.