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> Survival of the fittest in a non-dog-teach-non-dog world on that note, while attempting to figure out the origin story of food dye at rural australian b&s pa

> Survival of the fittest in a non-dog-teach-non-dog world on that note, while attempting to figure out the origin story of food dye at rural australian b&s parties yesterday, I ran across: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168159121000939 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01681... "Ewes prefer subordinate rather than dominant rams as sexual partners" (alas, not "who do ewe choose?") If the rams control mating*, obviously the physically dominant rams butt the subordinate ones out, and mate preferentially. According to this study, by tying the rams to opposite corners and hence letting the ewes choose between them, the physically subordinate males got not just relatively, but absolutely, more action. Is the ovine equivalent of a "soy boy" a "ma'am ram"? Do the ewes prefer them because they get serenaded with sweet nothings? Elect me, my sweet embraceable ewe Elect me, you irreplaceable ewe * Q. How does ${PEJORATIVE} foreplay work? A. "You awake?"

fuzzfactor 3y ago
That's a lot funnier than my wall of text, and maybe contains a true bit of observed animal behavior for one species too. Perhaps a nugget of wisdom about when animal-inspired approaches overwhelm the non-animal, some humanism is lost in the world at large, and that can be far & wide, but can also drill deep and affect the relations between mates. Animals in nature can set an even worse example for humans in this regard. >rural australian b&s parties I've really got to get out more. Sounds like the kind of place where you can come across all kinds of unexpected things.
- aebtebeten 3y ago
  this is the thread in which I was pointed to BnS resources: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40176315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40176315 > Animals in nature can set an even worse example for humans in this regard. Or worse yet, domesticated animals (of which I claim we also count). Want to run human societies according to pig practice? Get fascism. (TIL the weak piglets only die because we've bred domesticated pigs to have too big a litter [12-14]; wild sows have litters [4-6] they can feed) (Want to run human societies according to sheep practice? Do we get manufactured consent or theocracy or ?) Want to run human societies according to horse/cattle practice? Get feudalism. Want to run human societies according to horse/cattle practice, in the regime where a little food waste is cheaper than a vet call? Get socialism. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40020982 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40020982 (the use of the word "freemartin" in Brave New World tipped me off to the fact that in part Huxley used other domesticated species as a model)

fuzzfactor 3y ago

That's a lot funnier than my wall of text, and maybe contains a true bit of observed animal behavior for one species too. Perhaps a nugget of wisdom about when animal-inspired approaches overwhelm the non-animal, some humanism is lost in the world at large, and that can be far & wide, but can also drill deep and affect the relations between mates. Animals in nature can set an even worse example for humans in this regard. >rural australian b&s parties I've really got to get out more. Sounds like the kind of place where you can come across all kinds of unexpected things.

aebtebeten 3y ago
this is the thread in which I was pointed to BnS resources: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40176315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40176315 > Animals in nature can set an even worse example for humans in this regard. Or worse yet, domesticated animals (of which I claim we also count). Want to run human societies according to pig practice? Get fascism. (TIL the weak piglets only die because we've bred domesticated pigs to have too big a litter [12-14]; wild sows have litters [4-6] they can feed) (Want to run human societies according to sheep practice? Do we get manufactured consent or theocracy or ?) Want to run human societies according to horse/cattle practice? Get feudalism. Want to run human societies according to horse/cattle practice, in the regime where a little food waste is cheaper than a vet call? Get socialism. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40020982 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40020982 (the use of the word "freemartin" in Brave New World tipped me off to the fact that in part Huxley used other domesticated species as a model)