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> Google is an AI first company Google is an ad first company FTFY

by bitcharmer 2y ago

pquki4 2y ago
Exactly. If Google's ads income suddenly got cut in half, most teams would be impacted
phillipcarter 2y ago
And how exactly do you think ads get served?
- tomrod 2y ago
  Poorly, in most cases, via various flavors of JavaScript and derived frameworks therein. Sometimes with additional overhead referred to as "targeting" which gives a worse outcome and user experience, regardless, over simpler implementations that serve to inform. Targeting forgets causality, typically. Next comes YELLING-LOUDLY-TO-COME-DOWN-TO-THE-LOCAL-CAR-DEALERSHIP-FOR-NO-MONEY-DOWN-OFFERS phase of advertisements, which type are also routinely and nearly uniformly ignored.
  - motoxpro 2y ago
    Sounds like you should start a trillion dollar ad business! Or if you're worried about ethics start a "niche" billion dollar ad business that only serves ethical ads!
  - 7331 2y ago
    > Poorly, in most cases, via various flavors of JavaScript and derived frameworks therein Is Google using JS for the backend ad serving / AI?
    - tomrod 2y ago
      Not sure. I'm referring to Front End, however, since the advertisee does not see the backend.
      - mihai_maruseac 2y ago
        Flutter team (Front End), was also axed.
cafebabbe 2y ago
Adtech used AI to make money before it was cool. You wouldn't believe how many ML models are required to build those shitty little pieces of HTML.
- tarsinge 2y ago
  Everybody used AI before it was cool. In fact people avoided the very term AI because it was uncool. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter#AI_winter_of_the_1990s_and_early_2000s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter#AI_winter_of_the_199... > Many researchers in AI in the mid 2000s deliberately called their work by other names, such as informatics, machine learning, analytics, knowledge-based systems, business rules management, cognitive systems, intelligent systems, intelligent agents or computational intelligence, to indicate that their work emphasizes particular tools or is directed at a particular sub-problem. Although this may be partly because they consider their field to be fundamentally different from AI, it is also true that the new names help to procure funding by avoiding the stigma of false promises attached to the name "artificial intelligence".[49][50]

> Google is an AI first company Google is an ad first company FTFY

pquki4 2y ago

Exactly. If Google's ads income suddenly got cut in half, most teams would be impacted

phillipcarter 2y ago

And how exactly do you think ads get served?

tomrod 2y ago
Poorly, in most cases, via various flavors of JavaScript and derived frameworks therein. Sometimes with additional overhead referred to as "targeting" which gives a worse outcome and user experience, regardless, over simpler implementations that serve to inform. Targeting forgets causality, typically. Next comes YELLING-LOUDLY-TO-COME-DOWN-TO-THE-LOCAL-CAR-DEALERSHIP-FOR-NO-MONEY-DOWN-OFFERS phase of advertisements, which type are also routinely and nearly uniformly ignored.
- motoxpro 2y ago
  Sounds like you should start a trillion dollar ad business! Or if you're worried about ethics start a "niche" billion dollar ad business that only serves ethical ads!
- 7331 2y ago
  > Poorly, in most cases, via various flavors of JavaScript and derived frameworks therein Is Google using JS for the backend ad serving / AI?
  - tomrod 2y ago
    Not sure. I'm referring to Front End, however, since the advertisee does not see the backend.
    - mihai_maruseac 2y ago
      Flutter team (Front End), was also axed.

cafebabbe 2y ago

Adtech used AI to make money before it was cool. You wouldn't believe how many ML models are required to build those shitty little pieces of HTML.

tarsinge 2y ago
Everybody used AI before it was cool. In fact people avoided the very term AI because it was uncool. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter#AI_winter_of_the_1990s_and_early_2000s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter#AI_winter_of_the_199... > Many researchers in AI in the mid 2000s deliberately called their work by other names, such as informatics, machine learning, analytics, knowledge-based systems, business rules management, cognitive systems, intelligent systems, intelligent agents or computational intelligence, to indicate that their work emphasizes particular tools or is directed at a particular sub-problem. Although this may be partly because they consider their field to be fundamentally different from AI, it is also true that the new names help to procure funding by avoiding the stigma of false promises attached to the name "artificial intelligence".[49][50]