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Thanks, that makes sense. It was indeed a point playing with a gender stereotype. I wonder if the woman GP was friends with would be accepted by society so read

Thanks, that makes sense. It was indeed a point playing with a gender stereotype. I wonder if the woman GP was friends with would be accepted by society so readily if she put in so little effort to her clothes and appearance as he did. I doubt it, and that makes the remark a little bit uncomfortable to read honestly. I'm not sure what your last remark is meant to imply but it feels quite rude. It's normal to be curious and ask people to expand on or clarify what they're saying, especially on a site where the main posting guidline is "intellectual curiosity." I don't appreciate your directive in this case, as I don't feel I was blocking anyone from sharing their story with the question I asked. But, if we're being prescriptive, the term "women" is generally more accepted when talking about humans. "Females" is regarded by many as dehumanising.

portaouflop 3y ago
> I wonder if the woman GP was friends with would be accepted by society so readily I don’t think „society“ accepts an adult man who is dressed in rags either. At best people will think you’re some kind of hippie, at worst actively avoid you. In m experience does not apply if you are a student or below 30.
- AlecSchueler 3y ago
  We weren't talking about rags, we were talking about worn clothing. The original comment seemed to suggest that the most pushback he experienced was the comment from his friend which the was able to shoot down. I'm sure that if he was being seriously shunned in the way you're suggesting he would have felt compelled to change his habits. The expection for women to put more effort into their appearance than men is well understood. Do you disagree?
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    > and I keep wearing my clothes despite the many holes they have, as long as no private bits poke out. These sound like rags to me.
    - AlecSchueler 3y ago
      The point is that the cross over point at which they become socially damaging is more liberal for men.
      - lotsofpulp 3y ago
        I meant that it is possible taskforcegemini looked like they were wearing rags in a “not having themselves together” way, whereas the friend’s clothing with intentional holes can look like a “have themselves together but wear it as a style choice” way. It is or was very common to see men wearing clothing with tips and tears as a style choice, so I would not say men cannot get away with it. It just depends what the totality of the look is.
        AlecSchueler 3y ago
        Ah, so basically she took on the labour of both her own and her friend's presentation, and he still managed to both belittle her for it and to feel bold enough to share the story putting her as the butt of a joke about "females."
      - gosub100 3y ago
        That's a dubious claim and a faith-based argument.
        AlecSchueler 3y ago
        Would you care to explain this assertion?
        gosub100 3y ago
        No evidence, just relies on a trope.
        AlecSchueler 3y ago
        I just took a look at /newcomments and I counted fourteen assertions being made, none of which were evidenced and most of which relied on tropes relating to things like capitalism or working culture. This is the norm on this site, and as such I find it remarkable that you've singled out this particular instance of it. There's an interesting topic for discussion in regards to measuring social phenomenon and it feels out of keeping with site guidelines that you wouldn't engage on that basis but rather begin with complete dismissal.

portaouflop 3y ago

> I wonder if the woman GP was friends with would be accepted by society so readily I don’t think „society“ accepts an adult man who is dressed in rags either. At best people will think you’re some kind of hippie, at worst actively avoid you. In m experience does not apply if you are a student or below 30.

AlecSchueler 3y ago
We weren't talking about rags, we were talking about worn clothing. The original comment seemed to suggest that the most pushback he experienced was the comment from his friend which the was able to shoot down. I'm sure that if he was being seriously shunned in the way you're suggesting he would have felt compelled to change his habits. The expection for women to put more effort into their appearance than men is well understood. Do you disagree?
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  > and I keep wearing my clothes despite the many holes they have, as long as no private bits poke out. These sound like rags to me.
  - AlecSchueler 3y ago
    The point is that the cross over point at which they become socially damaging is more liberal for men.
    - lotsofpulp 3y ago
      I meant that it is possible taskforcegemini looked like they were wearing rags in a “not having themselves together” way, whereas the friend’s clothing with intentional holes can look like a “have themselves together but wear it as a style choice” way. It is or was very common to see men wearing clothing with tips and tears as a style choice, so I would not say men cannot get away with it. It just depends what the totality of the look is.
      - AlecSchueler 3y ago
        Ah, so basically she took on the labour of both her own and her friend's presentation, and he still managed to both belittle her for it and to feel bold enough to share the story putting her as the butt of a joke about "females."
    - gosub100 3y ago
      That's a dubious claim and a faith-based argument.
      - AlecSchueler 3y ago
        Would you care to explain this assertion?
        gosub100 3y ago
        No evidence, just relies on a trope.
        AlecSchueler 3y ago
        I just took a look at /newcomments and I counted fourteen assertions being made, none of which were evidenced and most of which relied on tropes relating to things like capitalism or working culture. This is the norm on this site, and as such I find it remarkable that you've singled out this particular instance of it. There's an interesting topic for discussion in regards to measuring social phenomenon and it feels out of keeping with site guidelines that you wouldn't engage on that basis but rather begin with complete dismissal.