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The genre is called "first person dangeon crawler" https://dungeoncrawlers.org/ https://dungeoncrawlers.org/

by emmanueloga_ 2y ago

thaumasiotes 2y ago
Actually the genre is called dungeon blobber. Dungeon crawler is a much wider field than blobber is.
- badsectoracula 2y ago
  The linked game is a dungeon crawler, not a blobber. A blobber implies that you control a party that acts as a single "blob" in game space - games like Might & Magic, Wizardry, Wizards & Warriors (the 2000 game) etc. are blobbers since you control an entire party but not the individual party members (so a game like Dragon Age isn't a blobber despite controlling a party because each party member is its own individual entity in the game world). A dungeon crawler can be a blobber but not all dungeon crawlers are blobbers: if you control a single character - like in the linked game - the game is not a blobber. Note that also not all first person games where you control a party are blobbers: for example games like the classic Gold Box games (e.g. Pool of Radiance) are not blobbers since while you have first person exploration and a party to manage, combat switches to a 3rd person isometric-ish perspective where each party member is an individual entity that is controlled separately. Though some people may say that games like Gold Box have blobber exploration and non-blobber combat. Also FWIW (and this is something the authors of the linked site above acknowledge too), not all dungeon crawlers and blobbers use a grid-based system for movement and combat: classic examples would be Might & Magic 6 and Wizards & Warriors, both of which are blobbers (the entire party acts as a single "blob" in the game world) but use free movement.
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    > The linked game is a dungeon crawler, not a blobber. A blobber implies that you control a party that acts as a single "blob" in game space - games like Might & Magic, Wizardry, Wizards & Warriors (the 2000 game) etc. are blobbers And this game is also a blobber, including by that definition. Your party happens to have one member. But the game is clearly a blobber. You can do the same thing in Wizardry, it's just a bad idea. By your definition, though, it would appear that virtually all JRPGs are "blobbers", which seems wrong to me.
    - badsectoracula 2y ago
      > And this game is also a blobber, including by that definition. Your party happens to have one member. If a game does not have you control a party of multiple members it is not a blobber, there is no "it just happens to have one member". That makes as much sense as Apple claiming that a tap is a zero length swipe back in the day and it'd basically mean all games are party based (hey, Quake is a party based game because you control a party of one - and Solitaire is a party based game because you control a party of zero). > You can do the same thing in Wizardry, it's just a bad idea. Wizardry is a blobber because you can have multiple party members even if you decide not to. The linked game is not a blobber because you cannot have multiple party members even if you want to. > By your definition, though, it would appear that virtually all JRPGs are "blobbers", which seems wrong to me. Only JRPGs that treat the entire party as a single "blob". And yes, blobbers are very popular in Japan and have influenced other games made there too.

The genre is called "first person dangeon crawler" https://dungeoncrawlers.org/ https://dungeoncrawlers.org/

thaumasiotes 2y ago

Actually the genre is called dungeon blobber. Dungeon crawler is a much wider field than blobber is.

badsectoracula 2y ago
The linked game is a dungeon crawler, not a blobber. A blobber implies that you control a party that acts as a single "blob" in game space - games like Might & Magic, Wizardry, Wizards & Warriors (the 2000 game) etc. are blobbers since you control an entire party but not the individual party members (so a game like Dragon Age isn't a blobber despite controlling a party because each party member is its own individual entity in the game world). A dungeon crawler can be a blobber but not all dungeon crawlers are blobbers: if you control a single character - like in the linked game - the game is not a blobber. Note that also not all first person games where you control a party are blobbers: for example games like the classic Gold Box games (e.g. Pool of Radiance) are not blobbers since while you have first person exploration and a party to manage, combat switches to a 3rd person isometric-ish perspective where each party member is an individual entity that is controlled separately. Though some people may say that games like Gold Box have blobber exploration and non-blobber combat. Also FWIW (and this is something the authors of the linked site above acknowledge too), not all dungeon crawlers and blobbers use a grid-based system for movement and combat: classic examples would be Might & Magic 6 and Wizards & Warriors, both of which are blobbers (the entire party acts as a single "blob" in the game world) but use free movement.
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  > The linked game is a dungeon crawler, not a blobber. A blobber implies that you control a party that acts as a single "blob" in game space - games like Might & Magic, Wizardry, Wizards & Warriors (the 2000 game) etc. are blobbers And this game is also a blobber, including by that definition. Your party happens to have one member. But the game is clearly a blobber. You can do the same thing in Wizardry, it's just a bad idea. By your definition, though, it would appear that virtually all JRPGs are "blobbers", which seems wrong to me.
  - badsectoracula 2y ago
    > And this game is also a blobber, including by that definition. Your party happens to have one member. If a game does not have you control a party of multiple members it is not a blobber, there is no "it just happens to have one member". That makes as much sense as Apple claiming that a tap is a zero length swipe back in the day and it'd basically mean all games are party based (hey, Quake is a party based game because you control a party of one - and Solitaire is a party based game because you control a party of zero). > You can do the same thing in Wizardry, it's just a bad idea. Wizardry is a blobber because you can have multiple party members even if you decide not to. The linked game is not a blobber because you cannot have multiple party members even if you want to. > By your definition, though, it would appear that virtually all JRPGs are "blobbers", which seems wrong to me. Only JRPGs that treat the entire party as a single "blob". And yes, blobbers are very popular in Japan and have influenced other games made there too.