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Jeff Bezos can't use signal because Amazon uses... a pricing algorithm? Call me a bootlicker but that's insane.

by lebean 3y ago

bradleybuda 3y ago
But it generated “extra profits”
tecleandor 3y ago
Nothing to do with that. They were under investigation and they could be destroying evidence. "Companies and individuals have a legal responsibility to preserve documents when involved in government investigations or litigation in order to promote efficient and effective enforcement that protects the American public."
- elevatedastalt 3y ago
  Preserve documents, yes. But there is no responsibility to create new potentially incriminating evidence against themselves. Just because you are under investigation does not mean all your communication henceforth needs to be recorded.
  - ameister14 3y ago
    It does, however, mean that your new documents related to the litigation must be preserved. Just because a machine destroys it for you as a service doesn't mean you don't have a duty to preserve. They control the disappearing time.
    - dlubarov 3y ago
      Looking at FRCP rule 37, it uses language like "reasonable steps to preserve" electronic information, and "intent to deprive another party of the information’s use". I'm no expert, but it does sound like this might imply an obligation to change retention settings, switch to another chat app, or figure out some other way to preserve relevant information (if litigation is anticipated).
HeatrayEnjoyer 3y ago
Sure. "Bootlicker."
brevitea 3y ago
Jeff Bezos, when not operating in a business capacity, can do whatever. The federal government told Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, and others, they had to retain communication streams for a certain amount of time. And then Amazon (and Google) instructed employees to delete lots of communications, and to communicate outside normal channels, e.g., via Signal.
- 8note 3y ago
  Can Jeff bezos operate outside of a business capacity? Similar to Elon musk, anything he might do or say could be very consequential to businesses he's related to

Jeff Bezos can't use signal because Amazon uses... a pricing algorithm? Call me a bootlicker but that's insane.

by lebean 3y ago

Jeff Bezos can't use signal because Amazon uses... a pricing algorithm? Call me a bootlicker but that's insane.

bradleybuda 3y ago

But it generated “extra profits”

tecleandor 3y ago

Nothing to do with that. They were under investigation and they could be destroying evidence. "Companies and individuals have a legal responsibility to preserve documents when involved in government investigations or litigation in order to promote efficient and effective enforcement that protects the American public."

elevatedastalt 3y ago
Preserve documents, yes. But there is no responsibility to create new potentially incriminating evidence against themselves. Just because you are under investigation does not mean all your communication henceforth needs to be recorded.
- ameister14 3y ago
  It does, however, mean that your new documents related to the litigation must be preserved. Just because a machine destroys it for you as a service doesn't mean you don't have a duty to preserve. They control the disappearing time.
  - dlubarov 3y ago
    Looking at FRCP rule 37, it uses language like "reasonable steps to preserve" electronic information, and "intent to deprive another party of the information’s use". I'm no expert, but it does sound like this might imply an obligation to change retention settings, switch to another chat app, or figure out some other way to preserve relevant information (if litigation is anticipated).

HeatrayEnjoyer 3y ago

Sure. "Bootlicker."

brevitea 3y ago

Jeff Bezos, when not operating in a business capacity, can do whatever. The federal government told Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, and others, they had to retain communication streams for a certain amount of time. And then Amazon (and Google) instructed employees to delete lots of communications, and to communicate outside normal channels, e.g., via Signal.

8note 3y ago
Can Jeff bezos operate outside of a business capacity? Similar to Elon musk, anything he might do or say could be very consequential to businesses he's related to