3 ms·
It may be over for you, but for most people it isn't. I won't pay the price of new car, any car, ever, even if I can afford it easily. Its just silly when I can
by jajko 3y ago
It may be over for you, but for most people it isn't. I won't pay the price of new car, any car, ever, even if I can afford it easily. Its just silly when I can pay 20% of premium BMW with say 90k km and use it for another 10 years or 150k km, with very few repairs needed (granted, this depends on the model but knock on the wood this worked for 15 years so far). Used electric cars comfortable for a family of 4, with bigger trunk, can drive at least 800km fully loaded in winter in 1 go without ever thinking about battery state, or chargers network? Please show me one and its price.
Its often the second biggest investment in one's life, after housing. But unlike housing you just throw money at it, expecting pure massive loss, while gaining service. Service new car offers is 100% of used one which is well maintained, minus all potential initial recalls. Its even better for peace of mind - small dents and damage on new car hurts mentally so one becomes a slave to freakin' piece of plastic and metal, on older one its meh category and I focus on important parts being in good state and high quality wheels connecting me to Earth, while driving much more premium equipped cars than comparable electric ones (granted, ie Porsche is better but at what crazy price).
What electric cars bring within same requirements is 2-4x more expensive just to purchase, and TCO are stratospheric for what I am willing to accept.
Another point is environmental impact on all that battery chemistry destroying ecosystems of some poor countries electric drivers often never even heard of nor visited, it ain't greener car to manufacture by any means, albeit greener to run for sure.
So there you have it, the reason 80% of ICE driver's reasons to stay where they are, at least for another decade or two. And that's just purely civilian family transport. What comes after those decades we can discuss at that time, nobody knows what situation will be at that time.
- timc3 3y agoYou drive 800km without taking a break? With a family? Last time I took my Taycan for a long drive (6 hours in -15C) we took a break half way, and it charged so much faster than expected - so I had to exit the restaurant and go and move it. It’s the best family car I've ever had, much better than all the BMWs but yeah, it is expensive although the running costs are low.
- jajko 3y agoYes I do, at least 2-3x a year. We do have breaks of course, but they last few minutes and cover toilets, stretch and some eating. Chargers logistics is simply another burden, manageable but definitely annoying at least. And anything Porsche has massive TCO, wait till you start changing worn out parts. Manageable, but ROI is extremely bad to me and even best cars out there have to pass some logical checks.
- ZeroGravitas 3y ago> Used electric cars comfortable for a family of 4, with bigger trunk, can drive at least 800km fully loaded in winter in 1 go without ever thinking about battery state, or chargers network? I enjoyed how this sentence escalated suddenly. It felt like you got halfway through then worried that there were actually used electric cars suitable for families of four with big trunks, and then massively overcompensated to rule those out and managed to rule out basically every EV. The transition to electric vehicles is planned over decades. People act like they're being forced into electric cars today at gunpoint. Since we're talking about second hand cars you have decades of ICE purchasing ahead of you. I think for most people, it won't be that long before it just makes sense to switch. But you've got your long winter journies and fast charger phobia so you're a special case.